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stalkingbear 12-30-2008 04:39 PM

Ruger LCP-not your grandmaws pocket pistol
 
Everybody here KNOWS I'm a dyed in the wool .45acp and 1911 platform man. So while I still DON'T consider ANY .380 enough gun for PRIMARY carry gun, the .380 is an perfect backup gun to my carry gun, especially with the new ammo recently brought out for it (Hornady Critical Defense seeming the best from the limited testing we've done). Having had a couple Ruger LCPs in the shop, my wife happened to see them and wanted 1. Naturally I ordered her 1 right away. Well, I broke down and got 1 for myself soon after. So far, I'm extremely impressed with the tiny lil Ruger LCP. Ruger seems to have addressed some of the issues of Kel-Tecs such as reliability/quality problems, while still retaining the exact same size. So far, we've ran about 600 rounds collectively through them without the 1st malfunction of any kind. Another thing that suprized me is their accuracy. They're not meant to win a match, but at 7 yards, it's easy to keep all shots inside 3"-even rapid fire groups stay well within the vital zone.

The need for a small light 2nd gun was brought to my attention a several years ago in an altercation where if it hadn't been for my wife having her carry gun on her person, I MAY not be here now. I had forgotten the 1st MAIN rule to winning a gunfight-HAVING a gun. Sure I had a good carry gun out in the car, but it was hard to conceal in summer so I left it in the car while we were in resturant. Back then if it wasn't an full size 1911,I wouldn't carry it. I swore right then to NEVER again be without a carry gun. Since then, not only have my main carry guns shrank, they've also became lighter-they went on an serious diet. It makes no sense to me to carry a gun that's so heavy/bulky that I'm tempted to leave it in car or at home. The Ruger LCP is so light, tiny, and easy to conceal, I pack it in my pocket just like keys, billfold, and pocket knife ALWAYS. I still carry a 3" barreled .45, but now I have the extra confidence of having a backup gun-JUST IN CASE. After all, if we could choose the time/place we HAD to defend ourselves, we wouldn't be there in the 1st place.

SGT-MILLER 12-30-2008 04:45 PM

Do you have any information for the people out there that are wondering about the LCP recall status?

I know they are working on fixing the problem with the LCPs, but it seems everywhere these things are on back order due to the extreme demand for these little pocket sidearms.

I am also looking to purchase one soon. I plan on purchasing a Ruger P345 and a Ruger LCP to go along with it.

One more question. How's the DA trigger pull on the LCP? Is it about on par with the Kel-Tec or a little smoother?

stalkingbear 12-30-2008 05:08 PM

The trigger is on a par with the Kel-tec-heavy with noticable stackup, but smooth. As to the recall status I'm registered but havn't recieved the shipping box/instructions yet. The Kel-tec and Ruger both feature the exact same basic design "flaw" if you will, but only Ruger is big enough to admit there's a potential problem and willing to do anything about it. BEFORE you Kel-tec owners get out the rope for me-I HAVE compared both side by side-INSIDE and outside, as well as disassembly of both, and Kel-tec has the same reason for recall as Ruger is offering.

bgeddes 12-31-2008 01:47 AM

Stalking Bear,

I'm a 1911 guy too. I bought my LCP with the intention of being able to ALWAYS have it with me where legal. I had a minor issue feeding a couple types of JHPs. I did a very minor polish and now it eats everything. I probably have ~1200 rounds through it. Mine shoots great too, even better after Ruger's recall work.

As for recall status. I filled out the online form the 1st of Nov. and got my box the 15th of Dec. One week later, new hat, new mag and repaired gun. Quick as could be expected and very polite to group to deal with.

Not a great primary gun, but far better than a pointy stick and quick wit.

itruns 02-08-2009 09:25 PM

exact same basic design "flaw"
 
Just wondering what is the design flaw that the Keltecs share... You mentioned a new mag, but no details on the gun itself.... I only have about 250 rounds though the PF9...Zero failures so far, but I just received my DT 9mm ammo to try.
I bought it for the same reason you did, but for me 9mm+P is the minimum I will trust... Details please?

stalkingbear 02-08-2009 11:19 PM

The design flaw Kel-Tecs share with 1st generation Ruger LCPs is if they are dropped, they MAY discharge if dropped exactly right angle/position. This pertains to the .32,and .380 models that I know of.

My Ruger LCP .380 is my backup gun to my "pocket" sized .45 ONLY.






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Originally Posted by itruns (Post 69379)
Just wondering what is the design flaw that the Keltecs share... You mentioned a new mag, but no details on the gun itself.... I only have about 250 rounds though the PF9...Zero failures so far, but I just received my DT 9mm ammo to try.
I bought it for the same reason you did, but for me 9mm+P is the minimum I will trust... Details please?


rjgnwdc 02-14-2009 03:29 AM

My grammah carries one but
 
Shes got little hands and perfers it over my carry which fits my fat hands nicely
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gglass 02-18-2009 05:01 PM

The Kel-Tec P-3AT did in fact have the same hammer-block issue as the first run of Ruger LCPs. The difference is that Ruger decided to issue a very expensive recall in the interest of correcting a "potential" safety issue, and Kel-Tec just made an in-line change to their manufacturing process... Leaving all affected P-3ATs on the street and no recourse for customers.

The part that really bugs me is that so many people will smear the reputation of Ruger for doing the right thing, and even go out of their way to defend the honor of Kel-Tec. It makes not sense to me.

Before you flame me with the whole Ruger copied Kel-Tec argument, just remember that Kel-Tec had no real or intellectual property to copy.

Here is the sum total of enforceable patents held by Kel-Tec...

Kel-Tec CNC Industries patents:
1 D527,788 Foldable bayonet
2 6,928,764 Grip extender for handgun

Ruger currently holds around 100 enforcable patents

My old P-3AT collects dust in a sock drawer, while I never leave the house without my LCP.
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gglass 02-18-2009 05:20 PM

Oops! Double post.


Hmmm... Maybe I could take this opportunity to flame myself!

dnthmn2004 02-18-2009 06:16 PM

I'd buy one if they were legal in MA. They seem like nice little pocket pistols.


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