My daughter and son-in-law came up for the weekend, and Saturday Duane and I went out back and punched a lot of holes in paper. He brought his Kel-Tec P3AT, his new Ruger LCP and his SA XD40 SC. I took out my Kel-Tec P11, my SA XD40 SC, and my Remington 870. I shot my guns and as always the P11 was an abusive, but fairly accurate little gun and my XD-40 was a pure delight to shoot with absolutely no problems and great accuracy. The Remington did exactly what it was supposed to do even with #5 game loads (ie. shredding the targets).
Three times while Duane was shooting his new Ruger, it jammed on him. One time the bullet was lodged in the barrel so bad we had to disassemble the gun to get it out. It did have a solid strike pattern on the primer, but didn't go boom. The other times it jammed, it appeared that when he was shooting hollow points the edge of the bullet would hang up on the feed ramp. He only shot 2 mags of hollow points and had problems with both mags. When he was using FMJ,s they cycled smoothly. The P3AT shot every round without any drama (other than raining the cases down on our heads).
Then we got to the point where he asked me if I wanted to shoot his mouse guns. I tried the Ruger first, and all I can say is
. It has a very long, heavy trigger pull, with very indistinct break. The recoil wasn't a problem, but the trigger in my opinion was horrible. If I had spent a lot of time with it and got accustomed to the trigger, I might have somewhat tolerated shooting it. But for me to shoot it for practice or fun, in my opinion, won't happen.
Then I tried his P3AT. I had shot it several years ago and wasn't particularly impressed with it, but I could get in the ten ring after a mag full of practice. Sat. right after shooting the Ruger I had the perfect opportunity to compare the two. To be honest I didn't like either one, but the Kel-Tec had a lot more manageable trigger feel and I was able to hit what I aimed at. I guess the bottom line is that I wouldn't bet my life on the Ruger with it's FTF problems, but the Kel-Tec would be better than sticks and stones. So I guess I'll stick with my P-11 for summer carry and my XD40 for heavier clothing carry and all around shooting fun. It's hard to believe how much better the XD feels, shoots, and functions, than the 2 mouse guns, until you shoot them one after the other.
I respect everyone's opinion on these guns, and this is just my opinion, nothing more. If you have one and love it, congratulations, I'm happy for you. If you are thinking about getting one, I would suggest that you spend some time on the range with either one of these mouse guns before plunking down the money.
If you would like my opinion on the Springfield Armory XD-40 Subcompact or the Remington 870 12 ga shotgun, I give them both my full endorsement. the XD-40 has a smooth relatively light trigger pull. Recoil is minimal, accuracy is excellent, and the feel and comfort is superb. Double taps are easy to do and would have deadly consequences with the accuracy and controllability displayed. The Remington 870 Express has very smooth action, very accurate, strong recoil, and devastating outcome to anything in the path of it's projectiles. I did install a Remington 20" barrel, a Choate magazine extension and a Limbsaver butt pad.
Regarding the Kel-Tec P-11, it's a nice gun that goes bang every time and has acceptable accuracy within it's intended range, and the price won't break the bank. My biggest complaint with it, is that when the gun fires, the back of the frame comes down on the second knuckle of my thumb with enough force to make me want to stop shooting after about 5 - 10 mags full of ammo. I also spent a lot of time improving the feed ramp, the trigger pull, and smoothing out the slide so it works better. Someone that doesn't have the tools or skills to do that, may be disappointed with the P-11 as it comes out of the box.
Please remember that these opinions are just based on my experience and there are absolutely no scientific, political, or astrological bearings on the validity of the outcome.
But the best part of the day was just getting out and shooting, then spending time with the little granddaughters and my daughter.
this current constant barrage of political nonsense will be ending tonight, and we have all day tomorrow to prepare for the next wave of political nonsense to start.