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Old 11-19-2008, 02:44 AM   #21
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I am definately leaning to the 1911 side of the equation.

My intention is to use it as a learning tool as well as a shooting tool.
I want to slowly improve it and practice and hone my skills, and the ready availability of 1911 parts means it is no disaster if I completely stuff something up on it.
A new trigger or hammer or sear is only a phone call away.
Also I want to see just how accurate I can get a cheap chinese gun to be.

There is also a HEAP of info on tuning and improving 1911s out there...
Good choice. AND, for all the right reasons.
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I am definately leaning to the 1911 side of the equation.

My intention is to use it as a learning tool as well as a shooting tool.
I want to slowly improve it and practice and hone my skills, and the ready availability of 1911 parts means it is no disaster if I completely stuff something up on it.
A new trigger or hammer or sear is only a phone call away.
Also I want to see just how accurate I can get a cheap chinese gun to be.

There is also a HEAP of info on tuning and improving 1911s out there...
Careful, most parts don't readily interchange with the Norincos.
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A trained monkey can detail strip a 1911 variant in about one minute. 1911 parts can be changed as needed, quite easily, even though the Norinco will have forged parts like John Browning intended. Not some MIM crap like most of the vaunted manufacturers are using today. But I digress.
I'm not sure what you shoot, but my MIM equipped garbage shoots pretty damn nice. My Kimber has well over 10k rounds through it without a fail to feed, fire or extract. The action comes in and out of battery at exactly the same spot every shot, the trigger breaks at exactly the same place every time and the sear and trigger are butter smooth. I can lay a magazine into an 8 inch steel at 50 yards in under 10 seconds.



It works, it works well and I kick ass with it. What more can you ask for in a pistol?
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Careful, most parts don't readily interchange with the Norincos.
Are we talking about "drop in" stuff needing fettling, or major differences?

Hadn't heard this before...
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Are we talking about "drop in" stuff needing fettling, or major differences?

Hadn't heard this before...
It might take some 'smithing skills, but with time and skill, you can get a VW Beetle fender to fit into a 1911.
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I'm not sure what you shoot, but my MIM equipped garbage shoots pretty damn nice. My Kimber has well over 10k rounds through it without a fail to feed, fire or extract. The action comes in and out of battery at exactly the same spot every shot, the trigger breaks at exactly the same place every time and the sear and trigger are butter smooth. I can lay a magazine into an 8 inch steel at 50 yards in under 10 seconds.



It works, it works well and I kick ass with it. What more can you ask for in a pistol?
Now, did you actually SEE me writing about Kimber? Ha.

When the MIM parts hold up, they can just be fine. But I replace them with bar stock parts, or USGI when I can find them. Merely because I have seen too many MIM parts snap.

You can see that I'm partial to 1911's. Aside from the mint, unfired 1937 Colt Ace and the STI LS9, none of these are stock.



And, yes, I prefer Colts. Thanks for noticing.
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Well, you 1911 boys need those spare parts. LOL

Us CZ75B guys don't need spares... plus, CZ invented and marketed the first double stack magazine.

All kidding aside, you can't go wrong with a 1911. Even most of those Chinese clones are dependable. And, ammo... well, you can get 45ACP virtually anywhere! Even Wally World has 45ACP ammo...

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Well, you 1911 boys need those spare parts. LOL

Us CZ75B guys don't need spares... plus, CZ invented and marketed the first double stack magazine.

All kidding aside, you can't go wrong with a 1911. Even most of those Chinese clones are dependable. And, ammo... well, you can get 45ACP virtually anywhere! Even Wally World has 45ACP ammo...
Hi Mark,

Which CZ model had the first double stack mag? My limited mental capacities were whispering to me that the Savage 1917 had the first double stack (11rds of the mighty .32ACP), but I'm not certain. I'd love to know though.

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.45 ammo is practiclally unobtainable here, as anything over 9mm/.357 is to all intents and purposes almost impossible to get, unless you are into big bore silhouette shooting, and they use .44 mag mostly.
anything over .45 here is banned in a handgun.
That's why I am getting one in 9mm.

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Hi Mark,

Which CZ model had the first double stack mag? My limited mental capacities were whispering to me that the Savage 1917 had the first double stack (11rds of the mighty .32ACP), but I'm not certain. I'd love to know though.

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I guess some clarification is needed... first pistol double stack: CZ75 9mm. It was actually called "high capacity 9mm"
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