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rferguson61 08-18-2012 08:12 PM

Non ACP type round semi
 
Does anyone know if there is any semi autos that doesn't take an ACP style round. I want something to carry when i'm camping/hiking. The general concensus is that a revolver is the way to go (more reliable and heftier rounds). But I prefer the pack-a-bility of a semi. I was thinking around a .45 but the only thing I can find in a semi is a .40 S&W or a .45 ACP.

trip286 08-18-2012 08:21 PM

Don't quite understand. Are you wanting a rimmed magnum cartridge in a semi auto? If that's the case, the two I know of right off the top are the desert eagle (.357 mag, .44 mag, .50 AE) and the Coonan arms .357 mag 1911.

rferguson61 08-18-2012 08:27 PM

Yeah (I don't know technical terms sorry :/) but yes. A revolver cartridge (.44 mag, .45 lc, etc) in a semi frame. Im told that an auto round wont do anything against an animal. I live in Oregon, we've got lots of bears here...but im way more concerned with cats than bears.

trip286 08-18-2012 08:34 PM

Those are the two I know of. There's probably more. There is also the 460 Rowland conversion. .44 mag performance from a 1911.

rferguson61 08-18-2012 08:45 PM

Thanks for the info!

SSGN_Doc 08-18-2012 08:45 PM

The problem you are going to run into is that the guns end up with very large grips to accomodate the rimmed magnum rounds. Also those rims can effect reliable feeding. i wouldn't want a jammed up magnum in the face of a bear or mountain lion.

The 10mm approaches .41 Magnum power but was designed as an autoloader from the beginning. You can get a Glock model 20 or there are 1911 autos made for this round. Plus you are toting 15 rounds of magnum level performance in each mag in the Glock.

SSGN_Doc 08-18-2012 08:48 PM

Oh, and my brother in law dispatched a mountain lion in California with his Kahr .40 if you were really concerned about the performance of a auto handgun round working on the big cats. That .40 round is a short version of the 10mm auto. Kind of what the .38 is to the .357 mag.

Olympus 08-18-2012 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rferguson61
Does anyone know if there is any semi autos that doesn't take an ACP style round. I want something to carry when i'm camping/hiking. The general concensus is that a revolver is the way to go (more reliable and heftier rounds). But I prefer the pack-a-bility of a semi. I was thinking around a .45 but the only thing I can find in a semi is a .40 S&W or a .45 ACP.

For reference ACP means Automatic Colt Pistol.

marc29th 08-18-2012 09:25 PM

I also would recommend looking at the 10mm if you want an Auto as a camping/hiking gun. You can get either a Glock 20 or 29 for right around $575-$600.

Tackleberry1 08-18-2012 09:45 PM

I think your missing the "other" reason most folks pick revolvers when 4 legged threats are the concern.

Besides the added power rimmed magnum cartridges provide is the inherent ruggedness and reliability of the revolver.

Most cat and bear attack I've read about that involved a "live" person resulted in shots fired at "contact" distance.

Auto Pistol reliability has come a very long way but pressing the muzzle into a critter can push them out of battery and more or less, disable your gun. Revolvers do not have this problem.

Show me a professional hunting guide who packs an auto and I'll show you a green pea guide...;)

Tack


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