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Old 05-26-2012, 08:57 PM   #11
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I don't want to get TOO into a dead horse, I just feel this relevant since it was just on Guntalk's podcast so here is a link to a great study. Basically it found what anyone would expect: Caliber makes little difference, shot placement and number of hits does.

http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/7866

Anyway I love my little .380 for my backup. I typically carry the Judge as a backup though.
i agree with that 100%! that is exactly what i advocate and preach about. shot placement and proper ammo. several hits with a 380 is much better than several misses with a 45! practice, practice and practice some more. then also buy quality JHP ammo that feeds well and it is ready to go when needed. i also recommend carrying as large a caliber that you can shoot accurately though. i have many pistols iv many different calibers, a 380 included, and i for one don't feel undergunned when carrying my 380 at all.
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Old 05-27-2012, 06:55 AM   #12
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I love my 380. I have a Llama Micromax 380. Sweet little pocket pistol. It's a Colt 1911 style. Love the caliber but I do admit the rounds are pricey.

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I have a S&W .380 body guard. I just got it 2 months ago and have taken it to the range several times for practice. It shots great easy to place shots, especially with the laser and is reliable.

As far as arguments about .380 or 9mm not big enough...well there is a hot case going on here in Florida right now where a guy was shot and killed and the gun was a KelTec 9mm.

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Well how much knock down do you need? I know for myself I don't usually shoot people do this weapon is for that one time in
My life where lethal force is needed. I have a LCP a sig 239 ((9mm) and a glock 23. I think the 380 is just fine. As far as the cost of ammo. I reload all 3 calibers.

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I would be VERY careful about reloading the ammunition you use for self defense. There have been cases where it's been used as a point to say that someone was only out to kill peopl by idiotic prosecutions in self defense cases.

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You should look at Buffalo Bore lead nosed +P ammo. I'd say its pretty close to 9mm standard velocity as far as knockdown goes. Custom ammo always helps

The PPK is very accurate from what I hear.
They are prone to magazine jams, they are accurate.

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Well how much knock down do you need? I know for myself I don't usually shoot people do this weapon is for that one time in
My life where lethal force is needed. I have a LCP a sig 239 ((9mm) and a glock 23. I think the 380 is just fine. As far as the cost of ammo. I reload all 3 calibers.
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I would be VERY careful about reloading the ammunition you use for self defense. There have been cases where it's been used as a point to say that someone was only out to kill peopl by idiotic prosecutions in self defense cases.
What is the difference in my .380 loads or standard? I'd still use my handloads. BTW my ankle peice is a W. German Sig P230. Fast as lightning and it does hit the same place twice, 7 times actually. I'm a big guy w/ hands the size of baseball gloves. My hand is 9" long and have no issue w/ my Sig. I can almost completely palm it.
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I have a S&W .380 body guard. I just got it 2 months ago and have taken it to the range several times for practice. It shots great easy to place shots, especially with the laser and is reliable.

As far as arguments about .380 or 9mm not big enough...well there is a hot case going on here in Florida right now where a guy was shot and killed and the gun was a KelTec 9mm.
For normal folks like us, 380/9mm is plenty.
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Shot placement!

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The only real difference between .380 and "9mm" (Parabellum/Nato/Luger) ammo is case length and bullet weight.
.380: 17.20 mm case length with 91 gr. bullet. "9mm": 19 mm case length with 115 gr. bullet. One has a longer case, allowing for a few grains more powder, and a heavier bullet -- and those extra grains of powder are needed to give that heavier bullet the required penetration.
Plus, .380 inch is the same as 19 mm anyway. They both have a 9 mm bullet diameter.

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The only real difference between .380 and "9mm" (Parabellum/Nato/Luger) ammo is case length and bullet weight.
And velocity. And price. And variety of platforms.

That's a lot of difference. Heavier bullet, travelling faster, costing significantly less and far easier to find, and feeding a myriad of platforms.

380acp is fine and it's got a purpose. There certainly are a number of very convenient carry guns that run on 380. But it's not a useful caliber for me, personally. Not that anyone needs to share my take.
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