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Old 06-12-2011, 05:12 PM   #1
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My goal is to buy a 9mm semi-automatic that I shoot well and that my wife is willing to shoot.

I started my quest with the GLOCK G17 and determined that the guns on my short-list were the G17, the S&W M&P9, and the SA XD(m)9. Since my 1st time shooting, I've shot the following:

Beretta 92FS
Beretta Px4 Storm
CZ P07
CZ 75 Compact
GLOCK G17
SA XDm9
SIG Sauer P226 (9mm)
SIG Sauer P229 (.40)
S&W M&P9
Taurus Millennium

The (Wife) Factor:
What I'm trying to avoid right out of the gate is having to buy 2 guns (one for me and one for her). I was also trying to get her off of .22 caliber. (After a trip where we only shot 9mm guns - 5 of them - it put her off of .22 and she is no longer intimidated by the 9mm.) YEAH!

The wifey is 5'3" and 115#. Her hands are on the small side, so grip size, muzzle flip, and wrist fatigue are all considerations when I'm taking her into account. As a result, she specifically hates the grip and weight distribution of the SIGs. She does however really like the 92FS and the XDm. The CZ-P07 would be 3rd for her.

The (Money-Is-No-Object) Factor:
If I take money and my wife out the the criteria then it would be either the P226 or 229 in 9mm and then get the wife whatever she fancies! But, unlike the Federal Government, I'm going to have to exercise some restraint here!

The (M) Factor:
The Beretta 92FS threw a wrench in my orignal plans to choose between the G17, the M&P, and the XDm. There were some things that I didn't like about the 92FS, but the added weight and reduced muzzle flip of an all metal gun, changed my outlook. I revised my quest with the hopes of falling in love with a $500-$600 all-metal, full-sized gun. The CZ was the leader in the club house. Then I shot the XDm (and it quickly extracted said wrench)...

The XDm fits my hand almost as well as the SIG. For a polymer gun it is on the heavy side, which is a plus in my book. And I was able to put 5 bullets through 1 (expanding) hole at 7 yrds. The wife has no objections to the gun as well!

I think it will be the XD(m) for me. Now, I just have to get a good price out of my LGS!

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Is it too late to throw another idea in the mix?

Have you looked at a S&W 5900 series? Pretty sweet little guns and they are ultra cheap now.

Smith & Wesson 5900 pistol series - imfdb :. guns in movies :. movie guns :. the internet movie firearms database

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Is it too late to throw another idea in the mix?

Have you looked at a S&W 5900 series? Pretty sweet little guns and they are ultra cheap now.

Smith & Wesson 5900 pistol series - imfdb :. guns in movies :. movie guns :. the internet movie firearms database

Ahhhhhhh! No more options! Make them stop! Can't make up mind! Must stop listenting to ppl on FTF!

Awesome site though.
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I will say I love my XDM!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I also own a G17, it is a gen 4. I like the overall package but it will not cycle reliably. I did contact glock and I will not get into there P.O.S. customer service in your thread. All I will say is if you get a glock then make it a gen 3.

And oh ya the trigger on the XDM kicks the SH**T out of the glock trigger.

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I will say I love my XDM!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I also own a G17, it is a gen 4. I like the overall package but it will not cycle reliably. I did contact glock and I will not get into there P.O.S. customer service in your thread. All I will say is if you get a glock then make it a gen 3.

And oh ya the trigger on the XDM kicks the SH**T out of the glock trigger.
Don't gen3's have that whole "kaboom" issue though?
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With the spouse in the mix, there are some considerations that must be looked at.

My spouse does not like me to purchase things for her. She prefers to have the say so on her stuff (I will never buy her shoes or a purse. I always get the wrong ones.)

What does the wife feel comfortable with? How will she use it (range or self-defense)?

Just asking.

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With the spouse in the mix, there are some considerations that must be looked at.

My spouse does not like me to purchase things for her. She prefers to have the say so on her stuff (I will never buy her shoes or a purse. I always get the wrong ones.)

What does the wife feel comfortable with? How will she use it (range or self-defense)?

Just asking.
Agreed. Not buying the gun "for her". I'm just trying to take her into consideration with my 1st purchase (of what will likely be many).

The gun will be an HD gun with lots of range time. I want the gun to be something that my wife will enjoy using at the range and won't be apprehesive about in an HD situation, should it ever come to that.

All guns are compromises and handguns are a further compromise, and semi-automatic is a compromise, yet again. So, the act and idea of compromising should be par for the course and I don't see it as a negative, as long as you're making the best choice for your given compromise.

So, what I don't want to do is get a gun that she hates to hold, won't shoot for more than a handful of rounds, and can't accurately shoot and at the same time get something that feels great to me and that I shoot well.

All things being equal I like the SIGs the best, but their price and my wife's dislike for them rule them out.

To me, the XDm is 90% of what the P226 is at 60% of the price, and the wife likes it to boot. It's really a no-brainer at this point.
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My goal is to buy a 9mm semi-automatic that I shoot well and that my wife is willing to shoot.

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CZ 75 Compact

There were some things that I didn't like about the 92FS, but the added weight and reduced muzzle flip of an all metal gun, changed my outlook. I revised my quest with the hopes of falling in love with a $500-$600 all-metal, full-sized gun.
This makes me think Dan may be right about a 5906. IIRC, CDNN had them for right at $300, so it might be a budget friendly choice for you.

On the CZ, did you try one of the full-sized models with a steel frame? I love mine; it even came in a chick-friendly goldish color.

Nothing wrong with the Xd's though; i love my XD45 and my buddy's XD9 is a good shooter too.
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Don't gen3's have that whole "kaboom" issue though?
I am not sure about that, I am sure that mine does not function reliably.

I would much rather have a firearm that has a 1/ 1000000 chance of KB than one that has a 1/5 chance of a jamb during crisis.
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This makes me think Dan may be right about a 5906. IIRC, CDNN had them for right at $300, so it might be a budget friendly choice for you.

On the CZ, did you try one of the full-sized models with a steel frame? I love mine; it even came in a chick-friendly goldish color.

Nothing wrong with the Xd's though; i love my XD45 and my buddy's XD9 is a good shooter too.
What is "CDNN"?

The only local range that carries CZ (that I know of) only had compact versions to rent. I really wanted to try the full-size. But I shot the smaller pistols and figured that I could extrapolate.

What I didn't like about both the 92FS and the CZ pistols was the smaller size of the slide, when compared to guns like the GLOCK, SIG, and XDm. In my mind's eye I want a big hunk of metal that I can grab indiscriminantly when racking the slide. To me the 92FS and CZ75-variants require more fine motor skills due to the size and shape of the slides (the Beretta has the added disadvantage of having the decocker's on the slide, which I found myself trying to avoid when chambering a round).

As for the 5906, is that still made? I'm not on that tight of a budget (but less money is less money). However, what am I giving up for the $300 savings?

My personal knocks on the 5906 (for me, given my needs - real or perceived):
  1. I believe it is no longer made.
  2. Not willing to buy used for my 1st gun as I don't have enough knowledge to tell good from bad.
  3. It has a magazine safety (don't like the idea of this).
  4. I have nowhere to rent/try this gun (this one is huge - I don't want my 1st gun to be one that I've never put rounds down range with).
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