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Old 03-17-2013, 02:24 PM   #11
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Got that backwards.
Damn it, you're right. I have never, EVER gotten that right. You shoulda seen me when I got into shooting Glocks, it took me about a year to get the numbers straight.
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The rifling is a moot point. It's a 3 inch barrel. On a 6" long slide with a long sight radius I can see it, there is only so much accuracy you can attain out of a micro compact pistol. I don't like MIM parts either but I don't see how those parts would Ed up a failure to feed/chamber/fire. I've heard the trigger is better on the pm vs the cm but that's unconfirmed. Set of a kahr, I know they are great pistols,(own a cw9) but if $649 vs $400 used online I want to know for sure if the extra is worth it, I like the drift sights and extra mag on the pm but I can cut a front dovetail, and buy another mag. Not trying to be an ass but $200 is another 8 hours of work or 8lbs of varget (if I could find it).
Polygonal rifling does have some other advantages, though. Those would be, an increase in average muzzle vel., less bullet deformation, longer barrel life, and less fouling. Again these are somewhat moot points for a carry gun. It all depends.
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Damn it, you're right. I have never, EVER gotten that right. You shoulda seen me when I got into shooting Glocks, it took me about a year to get the numbers straight.
Kind of like Mercedes model numbers.
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Kind of like Mercedes model numbers.
Exactly, there's just something about model numbers!
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I have a PM40. Fit and finish is superb. It is a snappy little pistol. I use it for a BUG only. I also have it listed in the classified section of the forum. I originally bought it for a gift for my grandson, but he didn't like the recoil. He asked me for a Ruger LC9 instead and enjoys it better.

I am a large person (300+) with large hands and have trouble shooting it with any accuracy beyond 7 yards. I generally joke that the safest place on the firing range is standing in front of my target. I installed Laserlyte sights on it to help with target acquisition and they do help remarkably well. Using a rest I can hold about 5" w/o the laser and about 3" with it. Offhand about 6" and 4" respectively. All at 7 yards. Combat accuracy.

The trigger is smooth and 7-8 lbs. All in all I find that it's a high quality pistol, but would not recommend it as a first pistol for a new shooter.

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Useless money wasted on something that's not a competition gun. Octagonal barrel is pointless, thicker slide is opposite of what you want in a carry gun and 200 worth of ammo should never be underestimated!

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Useless money wasted on something that's not a competition gun. Octagonal barrel is pointless, thicker slide is opposite of what you want in a carry gun and 200 worth of ammo should never be underestimated!
Your arrogant stupid remarks show a great lack of knowledge of what you are talking about both here and the 40 cal. thread. You sound like a dumb teenager trying to force his way into an adult conversation with nothing to contribute except smart-ass remarks.
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Useless money wasted on something that's not a competition gun. Octagonal barrel is pointless, thicker slide is opposite of what you want in a carry gun and 200 worth of ammo should never be underestimated!
You made me feel sad . I guess I'll go eat some ice cream...
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Your arrogant stupid remarks show a great lack of knowledge of what you are talking about both here and the 40 cal. thread. You sound like a dumb teenager trying to force his way into an adult conversation with nothing to contribute except smart-ass remarks.
I'm short in response for sure. But it's easy to see that this is merely one man's opinion on the subject based, of course, on his value on things.

I don't value a polygonal barrel for a self defense gun, it's a useless addition. Same with a thicker slide with nicer etching, means absolutely nothing to me. Other than those I see no differences. They're both built well enough to last a lifetime, both great guns, so for me 200 bones is the biggest factor possible in deciding and would be an absolute waste of mine to get the PM.

Sorry if you feel that a poor assessment man, feel free to rebut and inform of something I may be missing. I think we'd all appreciate it.
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