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Old 07-20-2013, 07:18 AM   #21
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Also take a look at the cost differences and availability of 10mm, 9mm, 40s&w, and 45acp, and see what they have and what they cost and decide if you can afford the most expensive, or just the least. And know to really use a gun in self defense, train train train, or in your case, Freighttrain, Freighttrain, Freighttrain to get comfortable with the gun and know it inside and out fully. Unless you can do that, you will forget a lot of things when someone is kicking down your front door.
No matter how you try to justify it, the .40 was created for pansy federal agents.
Sorry, had to point that out.
That being said, it does its intended job
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For home defense, think of the pistol as something to use as you get to the shotgun or rifle.

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I'll make this simple and easy.

Get a Beretta 92FS or 92A1.

The army generally isn't wrong about these things.

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No matter how you try to justify it, the .40 was created for pansy federal agents.
Sorry, had to point that out.
That being said, it does its intended job
Care to stand in front of one and tell me that?
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I'll make this simple and easy.

Get a Beretta 92FS or 92A1.

The army generally isn't wrong about these things.
They also use ball ammo (not really designed to kill).
They went the 9mm to be compatible with European allies in NATO. The European mind set seems to be centered around wounding, where we are not.

In old warfare, if you wound an enemy, you eliminate 3 people.
The wounded and 2 others assisting the wounded.

If you kill an enemy, the others continue fighting.

Was the Army wrong? No, but they also had the M-16 for a long time, and now are using other calibers than the 5.56. Ever wonder why it was used in warfare and not recommended for hunting game in the 200# range?
The requirements of hunting game are to have a "humane" kill.
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You've received a lot of good advice.

Shop, handle and, if possible, shoot as many as you can and find one that you shoot well, that is reliable. Handguns by nature are poor stoppers. So, being able to use it well under stress and know that it will work, should be the priority. Unfortunately it may take multiple hits to stop someone intent in doing you harm.

9mm, .40, .45, with modern ammo, really perform pretty similar to each other. Once you get into ballistics in the realm of .357 magnum or heavier, then things can change. The downside is these heavy chambered handguns can be a bit harder to learn to shoot well. Handguns are already a bit more challenging for most people to learn to shoot accurately. So getting hits is again a priority, because a miss with a magnum, sends a pretty high energy (higher velocity, and heavy weight and construction)bullet somewhere it was not intended to go.

So, I tend to agree with the advice that a handgun is a stop gap weapon if convenience. They can definitely be effectively employed, but there is a lot to really consider under the surface of the question, "what gun should I get for home defense?".

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All of which are very nice handguns. The Para-ordinances are too large for my hands, unless they make single stack versions????
Para makes several single stack pistols. I wasn't the biggest fan of the double stack Paras either but I did end up wit hone and changed the OEM grips wit ha set of Pierce Grips. THey are a little thinner and made for a real nice feel for me.
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Care to stand in front of one and tell me that?
Next time I'm having a caliber "discussion" with someone, that'll probably come up...
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Next time I'm having a caliber "discussion" with someone, that'll probably come up...
i can address that with a simple fact. accuracy trumps caliber everytime.

BTW i also own one of those "pansy" 40 calibers.
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