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Old 08-19-2013, 02:11 PM   #41
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Well if you think about it this could apply to any SA gun that has the hammer or striker held back, not just a 1911. That's because with the hammer or striker cocked there is already sufficient potential energy in the device that should it ever fail then 'theoretically' it could go off.

Now I still don't worry about it because I probably have better chances of winning the lottery. Plus most modern guns including 1911's have some form of a firing pin safety preventing the pin from moving if accidentally struck. But let's just say that if I am ever carrying and I find my hammer down (with no bang) then I sure as heck ain't gonna be cocking it again until a gunsmith can take a look at it.
That's true but every sa I own has a decocker and I use a safety if I have it. Im not against it by any means. I love a 1911. Some say its the safest gun you can carry in my opinion i feel safer with a glock, but what do I know. I know it has a safety on the rear but just a question is it possible that the safety on the rear may fail? And what actually is holding that safety not really sure I understand it
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That's true but every sa I own has a decocker and I use a safety if I have it. Im not against it by any means. I love a 1911. Some say its the safest gun you can carry in my opinion i feel safer with a glock, but what do I know. I know it has a safety on the rear but just a question is it possible that the safety on the rear may fail? And what actually is holding that safety not really sure I understand it
The thumb safety on a 1911 is held in by mechanics, meaning basically, in simplest terms, tab A must fit into slot B while Slot C is gently caressing Tab A in a very friendly way (like magic). Contrary to how this sounds, it does not over complicate field stripping. What keeps it held up/down are a detent notch and spring loaded detent. This is much more "positive" than you may realize. You don't normally "accidentally" disengage the safety without some positive force or without hearing a very distinctive click, and also holds the thumb safety in the gun along with those aforementioned mechanics. Also, the thumb safety, as has been mentioned over and over, is only one element of a system of safeties. Personally, I'd be comfortable doing away with it altogether and relying solely on the grip safety (HEY!!! Just like the XD!!!).
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The thumb safety on a 1911 is held in by mechanics, meaning basically, in simplest terms, tab A must fit into slot B while Slot C is gently caressing Tab A in a very friendly way (like magic). Contrary to how this sounds, it does not over complicate field stripping. What keeps it held up/down are a detent notch and spring loaded detent. This is much more "positive" than you may realize. You don't normally "accidentally" disengage the safety without some positive force or without hearing a very distinctive click, and also holds the thumb safety in the gun along with those aforementioned mechanics. Also, the thumb safety, as has been mentioned over and over, is only one element of a system of safeties. Personally, I'd be comfortable doing away with it altogether and relying solely on the grip safety (HEY!!! Just like the XD!!!).
Thank you for the help there. I'm trying to become more familiar with the build on these. When you say the xd it makes me alot more comfortable. I carry the service model 9mm. I think I feel more comfortable knowing it has a longer less crisp trigger pull. I think the reason I over think the 1911 is watching the video of the guy target shooting in YouTube and shooting his leg. I'm one of those people that looks at things and takes it to extreme sometimes I guess. I do trust my training with all firearms. I own or have owned about every popular caliber and gun just a trade nut. I like hearing everyone's Input on carrying. But thanks trip for not tripping on me like before and just helping lol
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I think the reason I over think the 1911 is watching the video of the guy target shooting in YouTube and shooting his leg.
Somewhere somehow, someone WILL find a way to shoot themselves in the leg with their gun. We should start calling THOSE idiot marks.

GLOCKs, 1911s, XDs, M&Ps, ect. All of them can be, and have been made to do this. All you need to do to prevent this is use the safety that all guns come with. The one between your ears.
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I think the particular guy you're thinking of posted a follow-up video where he admitted it was a failure on gun safety on his part. He was practicing "quick draw", and placed his finger on three trigger with the safety off before he'd cleared leather.

IF it's the same guy I'm thinking of. Did he say, "holy sh!t I just fu**ing shot myself!" Or something along those lines?

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Now I'm kinda fantasizing about a custom 1911 with no thumb safety...

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Now I'm kinda fantasizing about a custom 1911 with no thumb safety...
I'd still carry it. Like you said, with the thumb safety off, the 1911 is like an XD
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Now I'm kinda fantasizing about a custom 1911 with no thumb safety...
Yes that's him lol kinda funny when he says that
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I think the particular guy you're thinking of posted a follow-up video where he admitted it was a failure on gun safety on his part. He was practicing "quick draw", and placed his finger on three trigger with the safety off before he'd cleared leather.

IF it's the same guy I'm thinking of. Did he say, "holy sh!t I just fu**ing shot myself!" Or something along those lines?
This guy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYvAxLX6OzE
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One year later...
He admits...
I don't blame the gun...
I don't blame the serpa...
I got in a hurry and I got hurt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEuBXWujeYQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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