Gentlemen. Gentlemen. Don't be so harsh. You can find some good reviews on C9's on the web, not many, but a few. Even found one where the guy tried to destroy the gun and couldn't. Threw it against a concrete slab, ran over it with his truck and peeled out over it. Stuck it in the mud. Both my brother in law and father in law started out with C9's and have since upgraded. It's worth what you pay for it, no more, no less. Can't say I'd trust my life to it or my families but as a last resort back up gun it's better than nothing. Check out the link.