I dont Care what one owns, I just dont think you should expect $1000 dollar quality from a $150 dollar gun. To say its just as good as........ Ect ........ Is just being a fanboy. I agree that they shoot, I just dont think they make a great range weapon for long term use. I think one would be fine for a self defense weapon that is used only as that, shot when needed. Now if you use it for a dedicated range gun, I dont feel it is reliable as a self defense weapon. I have thought of buying one to get my son interested in shooting and if he likes it he may want to learn more and find what works Best for him, I am just confident it won't be the HiPoint......... I also just wanted to let you fine people know that my comments are only ment in fun so lighten up.