Eric from Moss Pawn and Gun. "A Hi Point next to the bed is better than a Glock on lay away. If a Hi point is all you can afford, then you dang well better get one". This after they beat the hell out of a Hi Point C9 for the span of 3 yo utube videos on Iraqveteren8888. I loved my G23. I enjoyed my SCCY CPX-1. I am in love with my M&P Shield and I enjoyed my C9. Good guns is good guns. Cost and taste is what usually creates a sale.