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Old 05-08-2012, 08:30 PM   #21
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Smith & Wesson 22 LR w/16" Barrel/Collapsible Stock $400

And $200 for ammo.
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I still think a 12 gauge is going to be way too much gun for an old man.

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I still think a 12 gauge is going to be way too much gun for an old man.
Shoobee, that makes no sense. you don't even know how old the man is. the son is only 14. my father is 70 and can still shoot a 10ga shotgun! age has nothing to do with ability to shoot heavy recoiling firearms.

i second a shogun for the best line of defence for the home. pistol is secondary IMO. my pump 12 ga is loaded with #4 birdshot and has been tested several times for patterning and penetration.
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ok thanks alot everyone! also my dad is only 42 lol hes shot guns before(his dad let him shoot when he was my age and he shot guns with his friends when he was like 25ish or 30. i think the last time he shot was quite awhile ago though...) and is experienced and taught me alot on gun safety and is very strict on safety. he can easily handle a 12g , my family members also are very into guns

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IF your YOUNG father of a mere 42 years wanted a lighter, less-recoiling shotgun, the twenty guage models are available in grown man sizes. I like the old Mossberg 500 i have for a lot of reasons; one is that while i normally keep it dressed for HD with the 18.5" barrel, i can switch back to the 28" barrel with the modified choke for some bird blasting fun or even deer in the brushy stuff. If your YOUNG father happens to be of the hippie persuasion, there are "less lethal" types of shotgun ammo available that are rubber bullets or bean bag projectiles, some with marking agents or pepper spray (I like #4 & buck myself).



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i second a shogun for the best line of defence for the home.
Put your Shogun up against my Mossberg; i will give him a two-Mississippi lead.
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Ive got you both beat... Remington 870 3-1/2 mag

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also how are these?
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_797/products_id/63337/American+Tactical+GSG522+Semi-Automatic+22+Long+Rifle+10%2B1+C
and where can i find one of these and whats the average price?
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_151/products_id/74683/Kel-Tec+22WMR+CARBINE

bassically i want something with cheap mags cheap ammo and reliable

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haha ok thanks and my dad is far from hippie lol, if someone were to break in he would in fact shoot them no doubt about it...

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http://www.americanrifleman.org/m-articlepage.aspx?id=3791&cid=4

If you want a so called tactile 22 check out the mk22 I love mine and has functioned flawlessly
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I have a Mossberg 500 I have the short barrel, heat shield and pistol grip on it. And I do like it that way, but I might as well throw out the long barrel and stock. I hate hunting with it. It can't hold a candle to my Browning A5

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