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Old 05-08-2012, 12:56 AM   #11
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Shotgun in 12gauge is the best FIRST gun for home defense. That is firepower. Don't forget to buy 100-200 00-Buck shells.

Then, add to that some double-action full-size polymer pistol in 9mm. Glock 17, Springfield XD Service, or Smith and Wesson M&P9 would all be good choices.
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Old 05-08-2012, 01:56 AM   #12
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Shotgun in 12gauge is the best FIRST gun for home defense. That is firepower. Don't forget to buy 100-200 00-Buck shells.

Then, add to that some double-action full-size polymer pistol in 9mm. Glock 17, Springfield XD Service, or Smith and Wesson M&P9 would all be good choices.
Shotgun $325+ ammo $100-200 & a $535 Glock+ammo $25= $1,085... The budget was 500$ (must be the short new math version of $500) for 2 guns. Yep, I can see why dad sent in his 12 year old.
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He might check out High points, I believe they have a 380, 9mm, 45cal, for home defense theyll do. And very cheap. Lifetime warranty, even if bought used.
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You could probably turn to a local gun shop and score a good deal on a trade in Glock, Ruger, or other big name manufacturer. Personally I wouldn't buy a Jiminez for anything, not even as a paper weight. 9 mm is a great place to start. It is an effective round that is plentiful and one of the most affordable centerfire calibers under current manufacture. You could try to score a variant of the sks for the rifle option. You can find a decent condition sks in the ballpark of 250 to 300 depending where you look and what options you want in one. I absolutely love my Ruger SR9 pistol and my Norinco DP SKS... With open sights my sks can still hit a 10" target consistenly at 100 yards or better without having put extra money into any modifications or enhancements... They are both very durable guns and I feel they both represent good value... The SR9 is a newer model, though, and would be hard to find for under 350 or so used but some of their older models could probably be had pretty cost effectively and I feel Ruger makes a solid shooter... Really hard to give much advice though, since I don't know the end user and his requirements for this selection.
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Ok thanks!
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Also im 14 and did i say 500 for both? I should have said 800 my dad wont go over that. I was looking at the sks,10/22,ak47, and any saiga rifles. My dad wants either 40s&w 45acp or 9mm i dont think he would like the high points i think i saw a pac7 or something with a name like that for 250 i read they are made in cali and pretty reliable
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Your dad can pick up a Mossberg pump shotgun, even with the shorter barrel, maybe the combo with the hunting barrel and the shorter HD barrel, for less than most any new & reliable handgun.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/37_336/products_id/411537262/Mossberg+12ga+18%22+w+Pistol+Grip+Kit
Something like this is an option.
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If you want a home defense gun you cant go wrong with a shotgun, for a rifle 10/22 all day
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We don't know how experienced with firearms your dad is. Or how old.

Beginners usually start with .22LR's.

From there you can then move up to .38 or 9mm in a handgun (revolver or pistol).

And there are much smaller shotguns than 12 gauge, like 410 or 20 gauge, which are better shotguns for beginners, or older folks.
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I'm going echo shotgun here. You can get lighter loads that don't go through wall but will still kill someone and there's more room for error. For home defense, always a shotgun.
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