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Old 06-22-2011, 10:35 PM   #11
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That looks like a nice shooter, and ruger is a definite plus on it. So this is totally legal with no hassle? What kit did you use to convert the charger? I can only find that kit for the 10/22. Thanks
Note his location and that laws vary geographically.
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That looks like a nice shooter, and ruger is a definite plus on it. So this is totally legal with no hassle? What kit did you use to convert the charger? I can only find that kit for the 10/22. Thanks
Morgo and AUS are in Australia. So little different laws

Makes me wonder though if our SBR paperwork, while a bit of a hassle, is easier or harder than what those guys put up with and go through to get each firearm?
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Yeah, true. It's not really that bad; all I need to do is fill out the paperwork and pay the tax; but it all just gives me this eerie feeling, and I don't understand the importance of this law. Having a stock will make a gun LESS concealable. The only thing a stock will affect is accuracy and comfort. I can't think of any other reason anyone would want one. I mean, seriously. You can buy an anti-tank rifle no problem, but putting a stock on a pistol will put you in prison.

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Yeah, true. It's not really that bad; all I need to do is fill out the paperwork and pay the tax; but it all just gives me this eerie feeling, and I don't understand the importance of this law. Having a stock will make a gun LESS concealable. The only thing a stock will affect is accuracy and comfort. I can't think of any other reason anyone would want one. I mean, seriously. You can buy an anti-tank rifle no problem, but putting a stock on a pistol will put you in prison.
thats correct. nfa laws make no sense because they were designed to keep firearms out of the hands of black people, mexican people and indian people in 1938. recently in 1968 the democrats decided cant have easy access for nfa items for white people too. then in 1986 ronald reagen decided increase the racist ban by outlawing all new machine guns.

so the rules are the rules until we get real conservatives in charge of all three branches to rewrite or better yet remove nfa rules and the batfe.

best bet is find a lawyer familiar with federal nfa and your state nfa rules. consult wih a nfa lawyer do not take for rote what a dealer tells ya lots of em go on hearsay. there is a dealer here in wis that thinks you go to jail for just touching a nfa weapon you dont personally own....
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That looks like a nice shooter, and ruger is a definite plus on it. So this is totally legal with no hassle? What kit did you use to convert the charger? I can only find that kit for the 10/22. Thanks
Its a great shooter, with the new hornet trigger unit it puts a full mag into .5" at 25 yards from the factory barrel (which is cut down to 7")
Perfectly legal here, at present, but as mentioned the laws vary by location
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Morgo and AUS are in Australia. So little different laws

Makes me wonder though if our SBR paperwork, while a bit of a hassle, is easier or harder than what those guys put up with and go through to get each firearm?
Once your licenced here its not much of a hassle, juts need to fill out a PTA (permit to acquire) send it of in the mail and once it comes back you can buy what your after.
This Ruger is my little loop hole exploit as it still meets the definition of a handgun here though we still can't have semi auto rifles so you guys are still way out in front even with the $200 tax stamp and paper work.
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best bet is find a lawyer familiar with federal nfa and your state nfa rules. consult wih a nfa lawyer do not take for rote what a dealer tells ya lots of em go on hearsay. there is a dealer here in wis that thinks you go to jail for just touching a nfa weapon you dont personally own....
Yeah, I learned my lesson from that. I bought a Taurus 9mm handgun in VA about 5 years ago, and they told me it was fine if I had the gun in my trunk. I got pulled over for a tail light that was out on the way home, and the cops gave me some shady story about, "Hey, there's been a lot of drugs moving through here; do you mind if we check your car?" I couldn't say no, because they would just hold me there until they got a warrant to search. So I agreed.

I had the gun in the trunk in a locked case. I told him about it immediately, and he calls a deputy to the scene. Has me stand up against the wall of a building while they thoroughly inspect my brand new gun, in the case, locked in my trunk, with no bullets. He's sitting there waving it around on the side of the road for everyone to see as they drive by, with my girlfriend and I plastered up against the wall. He tried to give me some kind of crap about the gun being concealed, but said since it still had the "factory oil" on it - whatever - he suspected I was not intentionally committing a crime, and I could go, but I had to stick the gun up on the dashboard.
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Yeah, I learned my lesson from that. I bought a Taurus 9mm handgun in VA about 5 years ago, and they told me it was fine if I had the gun in my trunk. I got pulled over for a tail light that was out on the way home, and the cops gave me some shady story about, "Hey, there's been a lot of drugs moving through here; do you mind if we check your car?" I couldn't say no, because they would just hold me there until they got a warrant to search. So I agreed.

I had the gun in the trunk in a locked case. I told him about it immediately, and he calls a deputy to the scene. Has me stand up against the wall of a building while they thoroughly inspect my brand new gun, in the case, locked in my trunk, with no bullets. He's sitting there waving it around on the side of the road for everyone to see as they drive by, with my girlfriend and I plastered up against the wall. He tried to give me some kind of crap about the gun being concealed, but said since it still had the "factory oil" on it - whatever - he suspected I was not intentionally committing a crime, and I could go, but I had to stick the gun up on the dashboard.
Weird cop...that's backwards from just about everything they're taught down here...

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Yeah, I learned my lesson from that. I bought a Taurus 9mm handgun in VA about 5 years ago, and they told me it was fine if I had the gun in my trunk. I got pulled over for a tail light that was out on the way home, and the cops gave me some shady story about, "Hey, there's been a lot of drugs moving through here; do you mind if we check your car?" I couldn't say no, because they would just hold me there until they got a warrant to search. So I agreed.

I had the gun in the trunk in a locked case. I told him about it immediately, and he calls a deputy to the scene. Has me stand up against the wall of a building while they thoroughly inspect my brand new gun, in the case, locked in my trunk, with no bullets. He's sitting there waving it around on the side of the road for everyone to see as they drive by, with my girlfriend and I plastered up against the wall. He tried to give me some kind of crap about the gun being concealed, but said since it still had the "factory oil" on it - whatever - he suspected I was not intentionally committing a crime, and I could go, but I had to stick the gun up on the dashboard.
you should not have consented to a search. tail light out is not grounds for a search warrant. neither is a cop pulling people over in a drug running area. what he did was very illegal as he coerced you into a search.

for a cop to search a vehicle you must be suspected of an actual crime a broken tail light is not a crime. if you were drunk or had a open container of alchol or drugs in plain sight or were driving reckless they could have arrested you then searched the vehicle in conjunction with an arrest. even then they would be restricted to the passenger compartments until a warrant was issued or the vehicle impounded.
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Yeah, I learned my lesson from that. I bought a Taurus 9mm handgun in VA about 5 years ago, and they told me it was fine if I had the gun in my trunk. I got pulled over for a tail light that was out on the way home, and the cops gave me some shady story about, "Hey, there's been a lot of drugs moving through here; do you mind if we check your car?" I couldn't say no, because they would just hold me there until they got a warrant to search. So I agreed.

I had the gun in the trunk in a locked case. I told him about it immediately, and he calls a deputy to the scene. Has me stand up against the wall of a building while they thoroughly inspect my brand new gun, in the case, locked in my trunk, with no bullets. He's sitting there waving it around on the side of the road for everyone to see as they drive by, with my girlfriend and I plastered up against the wall. He tried to give me some kind of crap about the gun being concealed, but said since it still had the "factory oil" on it - whatever - he suspected I was not intentionally committing a crime, and I could go, but I had to stick the gun up on the dashboard.
#1. He had no right search so he embarked on a fishing expedition. Remember these words "No sir, I have no contraband in my car, but you do not have consent to search my car."

#2. He could not "hold you there until they got a warrant to search". A search warrant requires something called Probable Cause. If he had Probable Cause, he would not have needed a search warrant for a vehicle because of the moveablility of the car and something called exigent circumstances. Officers are allowed to detain people a resonable time. Holding you for hours awaiting a warrant on a flimsy traffic stop is not reasonable and anything discovered would certainly be subject to the exclusionary rule and inadmissable in court.

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