marc29th, that's what I thought. I don't do any range time... my range is off my deck. I put a box through every once in a while to keep in practice. honestly, my 17 is the first hand gun I have ever been any good with. Wouldn't mind keeping it, but just don't see that I have a use for it. Maybe I should take my single six in and see what he can do for me and keep the Glock. Never could hit anything with the single six. I'm so confused.