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Old 05-19-2010, 05:13 PM   #21
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So this may be a stupid / newbie question, but I'm curious. I've shot all calibers a few times, and not once ever have I shot without ear protection! I'm tempted to take the ears off just to see. Are there any calibers tolerable, or that won't be too annoying? Does anyone ever shoot WITHOUT ears?
Have you been tempted to play football without a cup just to feel what it's like to get kicked in the nads?

Hearing loss can occur gradually at sustained exposures in excess of 85db, most gunshots are in excess of 140db and can cause instantaneous, permanent damage; why risk it? Use the ears unless it's a life or death situation. JMHO.
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I don't want to do it, I'm just curious how loud they really are, and if it is "instant deafness" or anything...

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I don't want to do it, I'm just curious how loud they really are, and if it is "instant deafness" or anything...
Put the muzzle next to your ear, and it's instant deafness.

Otherwise, one time will really ring your bell, but you'll recover.
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I don't want to do it, I'm just curious how loud they really are, and if it is "instant deafness" or anything...
About 10 years ago on a PA doe hunt, shot 5 times with my muzzle braked 7mm STW that day.
My ears were ringing loudly until the last shot, then they stopped.
They have had a dull ringing constantly since that day. Like I hear crickets chirping all year long.
Hard to hear an alarm clock. Conversation with someone in a crowded bar or restaurant? Forget about it, unless I can kinda read their lips. I'm 33yo.
Muzzled Braked Rifles are the worst, pistols a close second.
If the time comes you HAVE to shoot without hearing protection(Self Defense situation) You probably wont suffer any ill effects, but why risk your hearing in the meantime.
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What??
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I don't want to do it, I'm just curious how loud they really are, and if it is "instant deafness" or anything...
This is kinda cool...a decibel thermometer.

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Put the muzzle next to your ear, and it's instant deafness.

Otherwise, one time will really ring your bell, but you'll recover.
What are you an idiot?

1 shot will damage your hearing you may not notice it but it is forever damaged. I have spend 25 years of my life dealing this tinnitus. I have done plenty of research on the subject and talked to at lest 30 different doctors about it. All of them and the books agree. exposure to loud noises like gunshots damage instantly and for ever.

Sorry I can't stand by and watch you and other give out bad info on this. Please stop talking out your fifth point of contact.
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No it is not instant deafness but shooting without protection is dumb. While I was in the army i forgot to put my plugs in once when gunning on an m2 . needless to say I definately knew something was missing quick fast and in a hurry.

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What are you an idiot?

1 shot will damage your hearing you may not notice it but it is forever damaged. I have spend 25 years of my life dealing this tinnitus. I have done plenty of research on the subject and talked to at lest 30 different doctors about it. All of them and the books agree. exposure to loud noises like gunshots damage instantly and for ever.

Sorry I can't stand by and watch you and other give out bad info on this. Please stop talking out your fifth point of contact.
No I can assure you I am not an idiot. And in no way am I encouraging someone to go shooting without ear protection.
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What are you an idiot?

1 shot will damage your hearing you may not notice it but it is forever damaged. I have spend 25 years of my life dealing this tinnitus. I have done plenty of research on the subject and talked to at lest 30 different doctors about it. All of them and the books agree. exposure to loud noises like gunshots damage instantly and for ever.

Sorry I can't stand by and watch you and other give out bad info on this. Please stop talking out your fifth point of contact.
Ahhh, Tango, Mr. Subtle... but right on.

Just because the pain stops and the ringing goes away, does not mean you've recovered. I was a range instructor in the service full time for three years, 12 hours a day, 363 days a year, 32 points on the line, on a range with concrete walls and a concrete floor and a plywood roof. We had mandatory hearing tests every month and they never detected any problems. I wore muffs every single day.

Now, almost ten years later I have quite a few tones I can't hear, at least not clearly enough to not have to say "What"? all the time. Nothing else in my life would have caused this problem besides gunfire. Again just because it doesn't hurt, doesn't mean it's not doing damage. I am 34 and suspect that by fifty I will have serious hearing problems. Friggin' great...
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Ok, I think I get the point Now, for the next question... Are y'all wearing those big ol muffs, or plugs? Are one better than the other?

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