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ladyM 03-29-2009 07:44 AM

EAA Witness---any good ?
 
Have used search mode for previous threads=none.
I have a chance to buy an EAA Witness in 38 Super at a reasonable price.
It will be used for high round count practice only. The gun is brand new
and looks and feels good. Its sole use will be for IPSC practice which includes many rounds being put through it. For the price ,if it holds up for a reasonable time period, I can save a lot of money compared to this type of practice with an expensive race gun.
Big question is, will this particular pistol be up to the assigned task ? Is the quality of this gun such that it will perform well for extended training sessions ?
The gun is a full size Witness,metal, wonder finish.

oldandslow 03-29-2009 01:42 PM

lady, 3/29/09

I have some experience with EAA and maybe can offer some input. I bought two new EAA Witness pistols about three years ago, both in .45 caliber. One was the full size, one the compact, both with the Wonder finish. Between the two I had seven frame and slide cracks using standard velocity ammo at round counts in the high 2000 to low 3000 range. I also had corrosion problems with the Wonder finish (more of a pitting type corrosion like happens with stainless steel, not the surface flaking like carbon steel). I had the pistols hard-chromed to solve the rust problems (I live in the tropics so everything corrodes). EAA refused to honor their warranty regarding the cracked slides and frames since I had the pistols hard-chromed.

If you take a look at the cz forum (CZ Forum - Index) and use the search feature you will see a number of threads dealing with the issue. To be fair though it seems to be mainly a problem with the .45's and 10mm pistols so far.

Before they broke the pistols were great fun to shoot. If they had lasted longer and if EAA's customer service had been helpful I would recommend them. EAA has the reputation of having the worst customer service in the business. Hope this helps.

best wishes- oldandslow

ladyM 03-29-2009 08:22 PM

Thanks oldandslow----every detail does help. I know nothing about the gun and all input is welcome. Poor customer service is a very poor recommendation for EAA.

se3388 04-26-2009 05:34 AM

ladyM

Better late than never I guess so here goes. I have several of the Witness pistols my first is a 45 ACP full size I bought in the early 90's and I shot it almost every weekend for 3 years, usually about 200 rounds an outing (informal competition) and haven't had one moments problem out of it other than a few things related to reloads. My next one is a full size in 38 Super and it is one sweet shooting gun, I probably only have about 1200 rounds through it total with no problems, it digest any reloads I feed it.
I have a 40 S&W on the small frame and like it very well with only a few reloaded ammo problems. My favorite in the small frame is my Witness in 357 Sig, the steel frame really soaks up the snappy recoil of the Sig round. I don't shoot the small frame 9mm much as it is not my favorite caliber.
I guess I must be lucky as I have not had any problems (other than ammo related) out of the 5 Witness pistols I have.
Go to
CZ Forum - Index
and scroll down to the CZ Clone Club and they had all the info you would ever want on the Witness.

Steve E........

GLI45 04-27-2009 11:08 PM

I've also been very satisfied with my EAA Witness. I hve a Witness Compact with the Wonder finish in 9mm. After well over 1000 rounds it continues to be nothing but reliable. While I don't shoot the compact in competition a fellow competitor has 3 full size Witness pistols and shoots nothing else. I'm confident enough to have on order a Witness Elite Match for my son. I heard less than positive reviews of EAA customer service, but I've never had the need to call on them. Based on my experience they are a good weapon for a very reasonable price.

splashtx556ftw 08-27-2009 10:10 AM

i have a witness 10mm. i love it.talk about power. wow. now lets talk about the nice crack i found sunday on the slide. after only 600-700 rounds. I AM NOT IMPRESSED.

Gojubrian 08-27-2009 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by splashtx556ftw (Post 151524)
i have a witness 10mm. i love it.talk about power. wow. now lets talk about the nice crack i found sunday on the slide. after only 600-700 rounds. I AM NOT IMPRESSED.

Maybe it formed a butt? :D

I'd be pretty ticked about that really. Have you contacted them?

They have a new p-carry eaa witness that looks impressive for $420, but if it forms a butt after several hundred rounds...... :eek:

splashtx556ftw 08-27-2009 08:53 PM

yes they said to send it in prepaid and they would '' check'' it out. ive been talking to countless people about the EAA,S. no one is having this problem except 10mm owners. one guy has had 3 slides replaced by them. with last one he took it to a gunsmith, and they put a heavier spring in it and it stopped destroying slides.
as far as being mad, i wantred to cry.that 10mm is awesome firepower. nothing has more power except a DE-50 or 44 auto mag. in the auto class anyway. and its deadly accurate.:D

Skalgar 04-22-2010 02:03 AM

frame cracks
 
The only problem with the witness line is that the maker uses too light of a recoil spring. In the larger calibers (IE 10mm) this results in the frame cracks. There are many quality replacement springs available as well as sprinco's recoil reducing guide rod which will not only cure the cracking but make a great gun even better. I researched these guns for about 9 months before buying the 45 steel frame. It often out-shoots custom guns at the range and I have had no stoppages at all. I also replaced the mag springs. The ability to change calibers for only about 200 dollars is just icing on the cake.:p

freefall 04-24-2010 11:52 PM

Witness 10 mm frame cracked after 90 rds of mild fodder. I too am underwhelmed.


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