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Old 11-16-2009, 12:23 AM   #31
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The line of reasoning that says hollow points are a bad thing is just muddle-headed and stupid. Those anti-gun nuts are taking the survival of the perpetrator and trading it for the safety of the bystanders standing behind the bad guy.

Roger that...NJ folklore says that the dopes that voted the HP ban confused them with armor piercing "cop killer" rounds. They have no clue that a FMJ round can cause considerably more collateral damage than a HP round. Combine that with the 15 round limit and you have lots of people loaded out on FMJ 40S&W and 45ACP ammo.
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Old 11-17-2009, 08:08 AM   #32
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Makarov, or CZ-82. Those are my votes.

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Old 11-17-2009, 10:58 AM   #33
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You can get a Hi-point pistol for $150. They are not the greatest and I have only used their carbines which are still less than $300. The carbine I used functioned properly every time. There not the prettiest but they work. There are some good reviews of Hi-points on this site even, do a quick search and you should find them.

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Old 11-17-2009, 09:28 PM   #34
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You ever think about a hi-point c9 in 9mm nice gun a bit on the heavy side but still a good shooter and it's under $200.00

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Old 11-22-2009, 06:50 PM   #35
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If it is truelly a survival weapon you are looking for, then a 12 gauge shotgun is what you need and want. Hand guns are cool but not the best weapon to use for defending the house and family. And as far as hunting to feed the kids, hand guns will not always put the meat on the table, where as a shotgun will.

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If $300 is the limit, and you want personal defense and something that will put food on the table, I say get two guns. With $300 you could find a well used (but entirely serviceable) Ruger P85/89 and a single shot 12 gauge. No you won't defend the homestead from a huge band of goblins (but you will put a dent in them), but you will be able to hold your own against a single to a few goblins.

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Old 11-23-2009, 04:50 PM   #37
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Thanks for the help all. I'm still in the process of getting my permit so I have some time to decide. I've been considering the Ruger P95 or like everyone says, a shotgun. I am def looking for something that can be used to hunt and for defense.

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Kel-Tec makes some decent guns for under $300

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Kel-Tec makes some decent guns for under $300
He can get 2 Hi-Points.

Go over to the Introductions section and let us know a little about yourself.

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