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Old 07-21-2011, 01:07 AM   #41
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Wow. 4 pages and no one has mentioned the H&K USP or the old H&K PSP.

Glocks are ok if you want a big blocky thing with no soul. The Hi-Power is a timeless classic that I'm proud to carry when I'm in the mood but that USP shoots like there's no tomorrow and it beats out Glock for accuracy and reliability, which is one reason that many law enforcement agencies that don't just look at cost are buying them over Glocks.

And I say this as the owner of several Glocks. I don't hate them--I just don't think that they're all that special any more. two decades ago, sure. Now? nah.

And the Beretta 92F deserves a lot more mention than it's had here as well.

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Wow. 4 pages and no one has mentioned the H&K USP or the old H&K PSP.

Glocks are ok if you want a big blocky thing with no soul. The Hi-Power is a timeless classic that I'm proud to carry when I'm in the mood but that USP shoots like there's no tomorrow and it beats out Glock for accuracy and reliability, which is one reason that many law enforcement agencies that don't just look at cost are buying them over Glocks.

And I say this as the owner of several Glocks. I don't hate them--I just don't think that they're all that special any more. two decades ago, sure. Now? nah.

And the Beretta 92F deserves a lot more mention than it's had here as well.
Hk and beretta are out of the price limit.
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I like the Glock 19, because it has been proven all over the world, the military sent the berettas back and had Glocks sent to Iraq and Afghanistan. Glock put their own gun through a torture test(267,000 rounds). It made it through -40 degrees, 130 degrees, salt water, fresh water, combat, and accurate. The trigger is rough, but consistent. It carries comfy, no hammer poking you, no safety to switch, durable, reliable, and easy to find holsters and parts for it. Some of the reasons Glock is chosen by so many agencies is: price, it works no matter what, life time warranty, light weight, and it has very few moving parts which means less to go wrong. I would suggest the Glock 19 or 23 for a conceal carry gun or range gun. They are ugly, but you don't have to be pretty to kill. They will out last an AK, go to hell and back, burry it, water it freeze it, stone it, drag it, or drop it, but most of all keep you alive. More Glocks are keeping LEO and soldiers alive than any other pistol, but that is your choice. Just some advise.

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Glocks are ok if you want a big blocky thing with no soul.

And I say this as the owner of several Glocks. I don't hate them--I just don't think that they're all that special any more. two decades ago, sure. Now? nah.
No soul? What gun has a soul?

Not special anymore? Everybody and their grandmother has a "Glock-inspired" clone. It's like saying that the Colt 1911 isn't special anymore because everyone makes a clone of it. If it wasn't special, it wouldn't be imitated.
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No soul? What gun has a soul?

Not special anymore? Everybody and their grandmother has a "Glock-inspired" clone. It's like saying that the Colt 1911 isn't special anymore because everyone makes a clone of it. If it wasn't special, it wouldn't be imitated.
Well said, and very true. The soul comes from the person shooting it.
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Been several posts for Glocks...nothing wrong with that but I'd like to mention that all the great things about the G's can be found in the Smith & Wesson M&P 9, with the added benefit of spending your money on an American product. Also, unless Glock has done something with their triggers lately, I think the M&P's is nicer, and easily modded.

I use mine for CC and range use. I shoot whatever 9mm Para I have for plinking at the range, and switch to Federal 115G +p+ hollow points when it's time to think about why I own a handgun. I don't worry about the +p+ bullets because a) I almost never fire them and b) I isntalled a DPM recoil management system. It's a nice drop-in upgrade but it is a bit pricey though for what you are buying.
I like mine. It took awhile to get it from S&W (my first post). For the price ($509) and all the goodies I got with it (see photo), I could have done much worse. Plus, I recently took it to the range to let off some pressure (mine, not the pistol's) and at 25 feet punched out a palm sized hole with 3 magazines worth of rounds.
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BTW, the $509 was for the Range & Carry kit. It included everything there except the rounds and the towel.

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While I agree with some of the things said about the M&P, I think the smoother trigger is cancelled out by a lack of definite reset. The stock Glock trigger, while not the best, is really predictable with the reset. It clicks and you can feel it. Not so with the M&P. (And yes I own a 9mm and the .45) There are some nice features that the M&P has over the Glock but the trigger as a whole is not one of them.

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I carry either the Ruger SR9c or the Glock 26 as my main carry firearm, and I also carry a Kahr PM9 in my pocket.
+1 on the Ruger SR9C. I have a SR9 & a SR9C, they're both very accurate & reliable.
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All this talk about 9s is making me want to put AR build on hold for a month or 2 and get a 9. I sold my last 9 to a friend for security guard work.

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