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Old 05-23-2011, 01:34 PM   #21
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Default 1911 or Glock

I have a 1911 and also not a fan of plastic guns but when the media started blaming the Glock and 33 round magazine for the shooting in Tuscon, I went right out and bought a 17 and some 33 round mags too. It is a good shooter but I don't like the trigger action. I am going to install a Ghost trigger kit which advertises a 3.5 lb pull.
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Old 05-23-2011, 01:43 PM   #22
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Personally I appreciate the handling characteristics of the 1911 above all others. I currently own 8 handguns, 2 of them 1911's. I enjoy my "other" handguns but none of them handle as well in MY paw as the 1911's.

Make a friend who owns some. I've yet to put anyone behind my collection of autos and revolvers and not have them come away favoring the 1911.

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Old 05-23-2011, 01:45 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by Poof38 View Post
I'm from the old school, so I'm not a fan of plastic guns. There are no aesthetics (I would say butt ugly, but I wouldn't want to offend) to much of the blocky pistols out there and the micro guns don't fit in your hand and are tough to shoot. My aresenal functions well, gives me good accuracy and they look good to me. So here we are. If you like your choices in firepower, great. To each his own and happy shooting.
Great! #1.

#2--45 caliber firepower.
#3--good weight and balance
#4--I am unconcerned with copying the actions of the police.
They write people tickets,regularly prop hot radar guns in their
armpits and crotches, and do routine cavity searches.

You don't feel the need to do any of that, do you? So what does their
carrying a Glock have to do with you?

#5--It is still the opinion of many that polymers and synthetics, while
lightweight and corrosion resistant, are still not strong enough to handle
percussive pistol pressures as working parts. It's still going to be
steel guns for us, for quite some time.

#6--Easy maintenance.

#7--A more positive and functional safety system when fully loaded.
You'll notice that FBI agent shot himself in the foot with a Glock he was
soo proud of, not a 1911, right?
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Old 05-23-2011, 11:45 PM   #24
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I own a Glock 20 in 10mm...

But my next purchase of a pistol will be a 1911.

They're both great, so it doesn't hurt to have one of each...or more

Whichever feels the best in your hands, buy'll end up with the other later down the road.

Both have great pro's & few cons...can't go wrong either way.
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I've never owned a 1911, so I'm wondering - what is the fuss about?

I would think that a Glock is less likely to rust.
Depends on the 1911. I have several stainless ones where rust is not an issue at all.

Rumor has it that 1911's don't feed hollow points as well, but any truth to that?
Yes, in 1980...You need to get away from the geniuses behind the gun counters. Glock is a single source gun. 1911 come from a boatload of different manufacturers. There are $400 1911's and there are multiple of $1,000s 1911, to bunch them all up in one reliability statement is silly. All my 1911 come from top shelf manufacturers and they all feed everything 100%

1911's are larger weopons that are more difficult to conceal - at least it appears that way by the eye test.
Now THAT statement is absolute nonsense. The Glock 21 is one of the most difficult handguns to carry concealed I own. My 5'3" wife carries a 1911.

I understand that you can customize a 1911 much easier than something like a Glock, but how important is it to have a different color handle or something?
Not nearly as important to having slim grips for a smaller handed shooter or an ambi safety for a lefty or a match barrel and adjustable sights for a target shooter...

I know it sounds like I'm trying to flame 1911's here, but no one in my family has a 1911. Is there a benefit or is it because of the long heritage that people like 1911s? Maybe it just feels better?
Nope, its a great gun with many benefits and a huge following of very experienced shooters

There are military grade 1911s, but the police carry Glocks yes?
Because police departments have their accountants and lawyers pick their guns. The rest of us can buy anything we want and can afford. BTW MANY elite military units and MANY SWAT teams carry 1911 because they are free from the normal departamental money constraints.

Also seems like 1911's are often more expensive. How do you justify the cost increase? I must be missing something.
Better materials and higher level of craftsmanship. I'll hand you my Wilson Combat 1911 and my Glock 21 and you tell me which gun is worth $2,500

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Ok I know nobody asked me for my 2 cents. But im giving it for better or worse. A glock is not a 1911. a 1911 is not a glock. The 1911 has been around for 100 years. How many firearms out there can say that these firearms are carried and used everyday. No other design or gun out there can say that or has been more widely copied then a 1911. The 1911 is one of the most verstile and customized hand gun. With out the 1911 there would be no glocks or prolly any other semi-auto's that look like they do. I do carry a g-22 i love my Glock but i also like 1911's.

There are some benefits i see if you run out of ammo you can use the thing as a club. A decent 1911 will last you a life time they are made to last. There are so many different after market parts out there that you can virtually do any thing with them from a trigger job to grip selection. Ammo selection and the hollow point myth is just that. You buy cheap ammo your going to get bad results. If im betting my life on ammo and a hollow point im going to spend money on making sure that I have a decent magazine full of hollow points.

Glock’s are also a very nice fire arm and have been awarded and lauded as one of the top guns of the century. It is light weight, there are also plenty of after market parts you can put into one to make it better. Yeah glock is trying to make the grip’s better for all people but really with out being able to change grips like on say a 1911 style gun they are going to have problem’s with that. If you don’t want to carry a 1911 Glock does have a 45 acp. You can carry that. Leo’s carry both Glock’s and I know of a few that carry 1911’s.

What it boil’s down to is this You have to carry the gun nobody can tell you what to carry because its got to fit you nobody else. Be a glock or a 1911 you will be getting a quality gun either way.

Remeber this saying. With out the Colt 1911 and John Browning there wouldn't be a Glock.
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Old 05-24-2011, 04:52 PM   #27
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Yeah, FaTmAn,

By nature of the fact this is a forum, we did ask for your two


I agree about the "Without the Colt 1911, and JMB, there wouldn't be a


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A good 1911 is a lot like sex.
We can try to explain why it's great, but until you try it for yourself...
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In some ways, comparing a Glock to a 1911 is like comparing an Apple Macintosh computer to a PC. When you buy a Glock, it's only made by the one company, and you know what you're going to get in terms of quality, performance and customer service. Like PCs, 1911s are made by a wide array of manufacturers. Without doing some research beforehand, you won't know what kind of quality you will end up with. But with the right knowledge, you could pick up a very fine firearm that will address all the issues you mentioned.

I think Larry Vickers put it well:
If however you treat your pistols like we all treat our lawnmowers then don’t get a 1911 – use a Glock.
The whole quote is here, scroll down to number 7.
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Family member Norm Vroman recently went down to a cop gathering in Mesa attended by about 400 lawmen.

Norm's 1911 was one of only two in evidence on the range, and was the object of considerable wonder, as many of these young people did not know what it was.

Norm entered the shooting, and, not surprisingly, won his class.

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