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Old 09-27-2012, 04:08 AM   #41
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Well, 9mm 38spc and 357 are essentially the same caliber. The difference is in the bullet and case length not the caliber.
That's like saying 500 S&W is the same as the 50 cal barrett. They both have the same sized bullet. The 357 has a considerably more velocity. With the proper bullet the 357 is going to cause so much more shock.

The 308 is about the the same size as a 30/06. Yet the 30/06 does more damage because it travels a whopping 300 FPS faster than the 308. The 9mm American eagle 115gr has a muzzle velocity of 1180. 357 UMC 125 gr has a muzzle velocity of 1450 fps.

In my comparison I compared target loads the gap widens even more when you compare SD loads. The 357 sends a larger bullet downrange almost 30% faster than a 9mm.

How are they just about the same?
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That's like saying 500 S&W is the same as the 50 cal barrett. They both have the same sized bullet. The 357 has a considerably more velocity. With the proper bullet the 357 is going to cause so much more shock.

The 308 is about the the same size as a 30/06. Yet the 30/06 does more damage because it travels a whopping 300 FPS faster than the 308. The 9mm American eagle 115gr has a muzzle velocity of 1180. 357 UMC 125 gr has a muzzle velocity of 1450 fps.

In my comparison I compared target loads the gap widens even more when you compare SD loads. The 357 sends a larger bullet downrange almost 30% faster than a 9mm.

How are they just about the same?
What I said was "Well, 9mm 38spc and 357 are essentially the same caliber." No different than what you say here "They both have the same sized bullet." The OP stated that he didn't trust a small caliber like a 9mm he would rather have a .357, I was pointing out that caliber had little to do with it...it is powder load and weight.

What don't you understand about what I wrote? You basically wrote the same thing.
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The Germans are a practical people, and very mechanically talented.

IMO, when they retained the Luger round,(9X19mm) they adopted

a superior bullet which was years before it's time, in an efficient

caliber, and driven by a very well rounded powder weight, for

it's general purpose.

It's taken over a century to field munitions considered to be superior,

even with technological improvements, and despite government

purchasing paradigms, only time may tell if these new calibers will

succeed in replacing 9mm for power, range, penetration, and

overall economy.

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When it comes to caliber, it does not matter.

What will matter is getting a pistol/caliber that your going be able to handle, shoot well, and conceal easily. Something that you not going to leave at home.

Me personnaly I have carried .38Spl, 9mm, and .45ACP over the past 25yrs.

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