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ninevolt 05-20-2008 01:10 AM

9mm makarov
I just got a 9mm makarov pistol at a pawn shop

it's kind of hard for me to identify if it's a PM, a PMM, or someone could have modified it to have a .38 barrel or maybe it's a .38 without the markings

it has a circle ten for bulgaria I think it was made in 85 by it's numbers

I need to get some ammo to test it, it seems like a nice gun it does operate mechanically how it is supposed to when i check it out

can I take a ruler to the barrel so I can verify that I am purchasing safe ammunition?

I have heard you cannot chamber the ammo in it that it won't take anyway if you try but maybe it would work then I would be afraid of shooting unsafe ammo

I think it probably takes 9x19mmPM ammo but unsure

Any help would be appreciated I could post a pic of it maybe.

poolshark13 05-20-2008 04:58 AM

if your gun was made in 85 like you believe. i would imagine it would be the pm, seeing how the pmm didnt get made until 1990.

NYPD13 05-22-2008 05:52 PM

Makarov Pm "9mm Pistolet Makarova" Uses The Soviet 9x18mm Pm Cartridge And Can Safely Handle The More Commonly Available 9x17 Browning Short ".380 Acp". Use Caution When Using Surplus Ammo As Some 9x18 Pmm Is Still Out There And Is Loaded To Higher Pressures (+p+ Equivalent) Which Could Damage Your Pistol Or Yourself.

JedClip 05-22-2008 08:51 PM

Does this mean I can purchase .380 ammunition? Do they have to be .380 ACP or just .380? Can't the smaller size create a tunnel effect as the bullets going through the barrel causing it to be more harmful to the gun or something? Thanks for the information

NYPD13 05-23-2008 01:47 PM

The Difference Between 9x18 And 9x17(.380acp,7.65mm Browning) Bullet Diameter Is At Most Eighteen Thousandths Of An Inch. Chamber Pressure Is Similar(around 20,000 Psi). Should Function Reliably Yet May Not Be As Accurate At Distance.

herp_man2003 05-23-2008 01:59 PM

Why fire ammo that is not inteded for your handgun when its not all that hard to find the 9x18 and prices for it are pretty reasonable. i belive that its cheaper than the 380 and that way you know that your safe. I think that brownbear makes the 9 x 18 and its new production stuff not old surplus. just my thoughts on it thanks Anthony

ninevolt 05-23-2008 03:33 PM

brown bear is bi metal jacketed at

i am not sure what this means, is this better than full metal jacket of copper or worse?

ScottG 05-23-2008 07:08 PM

Silver Bear hollowpoints seem to work best in my Bulgy Mak. Only about a dollar more a box than brown bear. Do not shoot .380 in your 9x18 Mak.

Chuck 05-23-2008 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by ninevolt (Post 25103)
brown bear is bi metal jacketed at

...and only $8.95 per box of 50.

ninevolt 05-24-2008 12:48 AM

i thought .380 would be more available at walmart, 9x18mm makarov they don't sell at wal-mart supposedly (i had a really lazy guy help me though) but i'm not really wanting to try firing it

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