[gollygee]

Federal HST. Sells in 50 rd box for not much more than a 20 rd box of other brands, but you don't give up anything on expansion or penetration. In fact, I've seen water jugs tests on it which showed it to surpass some of the highly touted SD ammo brands.

[MrWray]

Originally Posted by cfraga1978

I even tried the hornady tap and got nothing but some packed sand in the tip. But then again I am shooting my ccw pt145 3" barrel. I didn't get nearly enough velocity to do that. I guess I am sacrificing velocity for concealment.

Im sure that the barrel length played some part in it, that expansion came from my fullsize 1911

[cfraga1978]

Originally Posted by MrWray

Im sure that the barrel length played some part in it, that expansion came from my fullsize 1911

At the same rate expansion or not as long as the bullet stops and dose not pass through you target you are getting 100% energy transfer.
That's why I say with 45acp it is a waste of money to buy sd/hd ammo

[MrWray]

Originally Posted by cfraga1978

At the same rate expansion or not as long as the bullet stops and dose not pass through you target you are getting 100% energy transfer.
That's why I say with 45acp it is a waste of money to buy sd/hd ammo

I also feel comfortable carrying FMJ ammo, thats a big hunk of lead, regardless

[larich29]

I ended up buying a box of Remington Golden Sabers 230 gr. A friend of mine had an extra box and he sold them to me for $15.00. I thought that was a good price for 25 rounds.

[cfraga1978]

Yeah jhp look mean. With my 3" barrel you can see the round in the chamber if you were looking down my barrel. If you were looking down my barrel you wouldn't have time to think about what kind of hollow points are those. Lol. The only other thing I have against all of the sd/hd ammo on the market is I can't see paying $1.00 per round.. I believe in train with the ammo you are going to carry. If your gun is anything like mine you will notice point of impact change with ball ammo and jhp. I can shoot fmj all day and when the day comes that I have to use my carry weapon to protect myself or my family I will know exactly where my bullet is going.

[MrWray]

Originally Posted by larich29

I ended up buying a box of Remington Golden Sabers 230 gr. A friend of mine had an extra box and he sold them to me for $15.00. I thought that was a good price for 25 rounds.

If he was a real friend,he would have just gave them to you.

Just kidding bro, i havent bought any in a while but they are more than $15. So you did aight, :-)

[GunRunner]

Bullets are so dam expensive because they are the part of the gun ur pistol that actually do the killing. We have missles on some of our fighter jets that cost more than the jet.

[BikerRN]

I would use any reputable factory 230 grain JHP that fed in my gun, +P or not.

What's in the gun matters less that who's behind the trigger.

[BikerRN]

Originally Posted by larich29

I ended up buying a box of Remington Golden Sabers 230 gr. A friend of mine had an extra box and he sold them to me for $15.00. I thought that was a good price for 25 rounds.

I do hope you tested your firearm with at least 200 rounds of that ammo before relying in it and that it was 100% failure free.