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Old 11-25-2011, 03:56 AM   #11
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I'd prefer bigger, but just as importantly faster in a wildlife defense gun. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I'd prefer a 357mag to a 40sw or 45acp if I had to deal with a cougar...and I don't generally prefer revolvers.

I'd also consider a 357sig drop-in barrel for the 40sw if that's available. A 147gr FMJ (1250fps) 357sig is a serviceable woods load for a medium caliber gun. Probably not ideal, but hard-hitting and a better alternative to a 40sw or 45acp in my mind. The 44mag is a great suggestion if it works for you, but some may not like size of such a big gun or the way a shorter barrel 44mag handles. A 357mag or 10mm can also be reasonable alternatives.



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Depends on where you are. Around here the black bears have been getting LARGE. A friend helped track the new WI state black bear in October. 650 pounds, not the heaviest, but the largest skull. It's larger than MANY grizz.

Heaviest black bear in WI is over 720 pounds. We see them in the 400-500 pound range pretty commonly when hunting.

Those sized animals are not going to be stopped by a .40. It may kill them -- eventually, after they are done eating you. But in a defensive situation, you want to STOP them and that's different.



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I'd say go with at least a .357Magnum.

I have to agree either that, or a

.44 Mag, depending on what you're

comfortable with...

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IMO, if i was to be in the woods and the possibe encounter with an animal larger than 500 lbs. that might possibly be a danger to me, the 44 mag. would probably be the smallest i would feel comfortable with. maybe a 41 mag. with some hot loads, maybe.

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Cant go wrong with a glock 20... Thats a 10mm beast. That will get the job done. If its bears your worried about just get some bear pepper spray...

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Cant go wrong with a glock 20... Thats a 10mm beast. That will get the job done. If its bears your worried about just get some bear pepper spray...
the 10mm is a lamb compared to the 44 magnum. the 41 magnum is even a lot better than the 10mm. the 10mm is only a little better than the 40 S-W round. look at the ballistics, compare with same bullet weights, the 44 magnum has nearly twice the muzzle energy as the 10mm, and the 41 magnum has more than twice the muzzle energy. if i had to be in the woods with an animal that could possibly do harm to me by nature of it's size and mood, i'll take my 44 magnum over your 10mm anyday of the week.
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I carry the G-20 loaded with Hornady XTP as my back up in the woods. Years ago I carried a Ruger .44mag, yes it will do the job very well but I do not like the extra weight. I prefer the 10mm with 15 rds at my side with a extra mag. If this does not work, I will just give the bear some salt and pepper and ask if he would like some wine to go with his meal.

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I carry the G-20 loaded with Hornady XTP as my back up in the woods. Years ago I carried a Ruger .44mag, yes it will do the job very well but I do not like the extra weight. I prefer the 10mm with 15 rds at my side with a extra mag. If this does not work, I will just give the bear some salt and pepper and ask if he would like some wine to go with his meal.
personally, i will take the weight difference of the 44 mag over the 10mm and use the salt and pepper when i prepare the bear meat for dinner! but what wine goes good with bear meat?
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personally, i will take the weight difference of the 44 mag over the 10mm and use the salt and pepper when i prepare the bear meat for dinner! but what wine goes good with bear meat?
It takes a lot of wine to make it taste better. Remember, this is a back up to the Rifle that is in my hands while hunting.


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