Originally Posted by Gloves
My brother-in-law and I have visited the range together a few days ago.
He's shooting well for his 4th time to the range.
He's looking for a Home Defense gun for him and his wife. Also one that's fun
to shoot at the range. So I took him to the range to try out the Glock 17 &
the Kimber Custom II. He likes both guns but doesn't want a 1911 (yet) and
he's not interested in Glock for what ever reason. So I had him rent the XD in .40
since I think it's a good gun for the buck.
He didn't like the XD that much but it could have been a crappy range gun.
He has some some things he has in mind:
- He's dead set on .40 S&W
- $600 Limit
- Needs to fit lady's hands ok
- Likes tactical look
- likes 2-tone look
- 4 to 4.5" barrel (little longer little shorter is ok too)
We just talked with my gun dealer to price out a Sig 226. Awesome gun, he
would TOTALLY buy that one if he only had $1000 to put down on a gun.
However he can't get over the fact that he could have an AR for that price.
He also likes the H&K USP double action pistol in .40 but I hear that one is
also out of his price range. (p30 or p2000)
Here are some other guns I wanted to tell him to look at:
- Ruger SR9c which - great trigger and a smaller more friendly grip.
- Browning Pro-40
- Browning High-power (in .40 if they make one)
- CZ-75 (in .40 if they make one)
- 92fs (in .40 if they make one and is in budget)
- Glock 22/23 in .40 (but would rather not have a Glock)
I need help expanding this list. Thanks!
It's nice of you to be helping your brother-in-law find a good home defense gun, but so far all I've read here is suggestions of guns from men who either own the one they suggest or have an opinion on one they think might fit the need, which is all well and good.
What I haven't heard, and what I would suggest as an experienced instructor is that if it's to be a home defence gun, and if he expects his wife to use it to protect herself with it, let alone practice enough with it to be competent with it, it should be her that's doing the choosing.
Sometimes it's best to buy a home defense gun that both can easily use in a stress situation, and buy another range gun that he can have fun shooting at the range.
I don't know what level of experience your sister has with guns, but most wives don't have much, and a big gun can be intimidating, especially one with a muzzle blast and muzzle flip of a .40 S&W, add to that a magazine that needs to be inserted, and a slide that needs to be racked, and god help her if the round doesn't go off, or worse, stove pipes.
You can say what you will, but Murphy's law is still in effect, I've found that most women who are not recreational shooters take much better to a no frills point and shoot gun that is light enough for their means, has grips better suited for their small hands and doesn't snap back in their hands from excessive (for a woman) recoil, something along the order of a J-frame S&W revolver, with low recoil self defense loads.
If she's afraid of what ever he picks, she won't shoot it in practice, when faced with a life and death situation a persons mind shuts down and they react on their training, no training, no reactions.
Just a suggestion.