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Old 10-26-2013, 10:54 PM   #61
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Old 10-26-2013, 11:19 PM   #62
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Old 10-26-2013, 11:25 PM   #63
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Video Link: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MPiTFsguIB8 Doesn't look like it had a problem with walls to me. (Guard dog=EFMJ in case your wondering)
That's what it's not suppose to do as well as other ammo. Lighter weight and jacket separation should make it not as effective at penetration but you see it still goes through. There really is no ammo that won't go through a couple of walls except that buck shot ammo and I recommend against that for a 40 cal
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I'll pull the tests later. The stuff is not as effective as the good JHPs.

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Nobody said anything.....about Glocks until you posted about your bacon dog who needs dentures.

What did somebody forget to engage their safety and shoot the dogs front teeth out? Or are we blaming that on the Glock shooters?

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What part of this did you miss?!

"Perhaps the point of greatest interest is the failure of the bullet to reduce penetration when fired through interior walls, as might occur in the event of a complete miss during a defensive shooting event inside a structure ñ lethality of the round is actually increased by the presence of an intervening interior wall. "
I have seen video to back this up. It is absolutely true. The drywall actually holds the round together and increases penetration.
Personally I'm just a fan of the term "it's a doctors worst nightmare". Good luck digging that out of the attacker. Lol
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You guys need to do some heavy reading on the subject of terminal ballistics. The goal of self defense ammunition is not to get stuck in the bad guy and be hard for the doctor to get out.

The goal of self defense ammo is to penetrate the vitals of the bad guy and expand reliably, but to expend its energy on the bad guy and not pose a threat to anything behind the bad guy. Good self defense ammunition still penetrates and expands in the bad guy the way it's supposed to even after going through a barrier.

Why people tout a lack of barrier penetration as a preferable trait in self defense ammo is beyond me. Walls, glass, interior doors and car doors are all barriers that you may need to penetrate to get a good shot on the bad guy if he's taken cover and is shooting at you.

http://www.brassfetcher.com/OJ%20gunshot%20thread.pdf

Here's a good a short article written by a guy who is a radiologist to get you started.

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If you think a ski mask is going to stop one you're out of your mind.
I agree with mountainman13. I can understand studies based on various conditions such as wood/plaster walls, car doors, the gelatin block and others. But clothing?

And I'm curious if anyone has ever had first hand experience with a condition where penetration proved unsatisfactory. I read where many claim to have CC for 20 years but has anyone ever drawn their weapon?
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I think some people worry about hitting loved ones or neighbors with bullets that are not on target of intended bad guy. Some homes or trailers especially are close and have thin walls but unfortunately there is not way around walls being penetrated. I have a pellet gun that can go through walls

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My SIG is loaded with hornady critical duty 175g and pdx1 180g. Still have my hydras too as mag refills if the need arises.

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[QUOTE="wittmeba"] And I'm curious if anyone has ever had first hand experience with a condition where penetration proved unsatisfactory.

I had a guy in my ccw class that got shot with a .32 in the waistline. His leather belt stopped the bullet. He said he and his biker friends got into it with some other bikers at a bar in Cleveland and he got shot. Yes I know, it was a .32 lol

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