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Old 10-26-2013, 03:34 PM   #41
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Glasers and similar stuff can work very well at close range, and thru thin clothing or no clothing, such as head shots when no ski mask, etc, is in the way. But it must be at close range, because the Glasers are light in the front and heavy in the rear. They begin to tumble after traveling only a few feet, and you can't be sure of proper functioning at greater distances.
I'm not making fun, but I am laughing at all the crazy variables people throw into these situations. A head shot with/without a ski mask seems pretty tough under stress. I like proven methods and safety slugs just sound like a bad idea regardless of what you're shooting at.
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I think people may be taking things a bit far here.
I can tell you right now, from personal experience, that at 21' safety slugs fired from a Glock 20 will consistently go through a 2x4 leaving a massive exit hole.
If you think a ski mask is going to stop one you're out of your mind.

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Well, yeah, I am outta my mind. But I fired a Safety Slug into a corner of my bedroom wall, a negligent discharge, one day, and it did not exit. It did shred the 2x4 and adjacent 4x4, but didn't go all the way through.
And so far as the ski mask is concerned, I just meant any face covering item, probably a bad choice. Maybe a helmet would have been better.
So when I go to church I'll do a bunch of hail Mary's and some genuflects to get it right.
Whoops - I'm not a Catholic.

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Well, yeah, I am outta my mind. But I fired a Safety Slug into a corner of my bedroom wall, a negligent discharge, one day, and it did not exit. It did shred the 2x4 and adjacent 4x4, but didn't go all the way through.
And so far as the ski mask is concerned, I just meant any face covering item, probably a bad choice. Maybe a helmet would have been better.
So when I go to church I'll do a bunch of hail Mary's and some genuflects to get it right.
Whoops - I'm not a Catholic.
Obviously a big difference between a ski mask and helmet. Lol
I wouldn't want to get dinged in the head with one even if I had a helmet on.
If you consider the damage the round did to your wall it is a safe bet that clothing isn't going to be a major factor on impact. You may not get an exit wound but if it'll shred a 2x4 and 4x4 it's going to do a hell of a number on your attacker.
All that said, I don't carry them in anything other than my 10mm.
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Glaser safety's do not meet the FBI penetration standards. The standards are the standards for a reason. Rounds that don't meet that standard shouldn't be carried for self defense when there are infinitely better options available.

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Conclusion
Having evaluated this particular line of Safety Slug against standardized barriers and ballistic media, a few conclusions may be made. First, the penetration of the tested round against a bare gelatin block is wholly inadequate when viewed in light of the FBI minimum penetration depth of 12î in calibrated ballistic gelatin. This is exacerbated by the fact that the tested block was out-of-calibration, in that a steel BB impacting at 590 ft/sec is to penetrate to 8.5cm in a ëperfect blockí. Due to the multiple sub-projectiles of the tested bullets, a correction procedure was not undertaken to determine the penetration depth that this ammunition would achieve in an ideal block. In any case, the penetration would be less in an ideal block, due to the lower-than-standard viscosity of the tested block.
Perhaps the point of greatest interest is the failure of the bullet to reduce penetration when fired through interior walls, as might occur in the event of a complete miss during a defensive shooting event inside a structure ñ lethality of the round is actually increased by the presence of an intervening interior wall.

http://www.brassfetcher.com/Brassfetcher_evaluates_9mm_Glaser_Safety_Slug.pdf

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Let's not forget that the 10mm was too much gun for the FBI though. Lol

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Let's not forget that the 10mm was too much gun for the FBI though. Lol
Then how bad must it be when a round is to little bullet for them?
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Then how bad must it be when a round is to little bullet for them?
Very true. Lol
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Oh I almost forgot about federal guard dog ammo. It was designed to be a home defense round that won't over penetrate walls

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