Originally Posted by 95sniper
Thank you for the explanation. I'm not trying to have careless technique, but if the time comes I want to make sure that I have made the correct decision regarding gun and ammo choices.
Sorry. My point wasn't about your technique. My point was directed to all the shooters that are settling for sub-par ammo because somebody might get hurt when they fire toward a crowd. They tend to believe that they could never miss so they want their ammo to stay inside the bad guy. Statistically, they will miss, which totally defeats their logic. Over-penetration concerns go right out the window when 15% or more of your shots completely miss your target.
Using that 15% number, with a ten round magazine the numbers work out so 1 or 2 shots will miss if you empty your magazine. This is where the technique comes in. If the bad guy has a crowd of people behind him the only way you can know for sure that you won't kill a bystander is to not take the shot, right?
The JHP in the mouse gun crowd will tell you that you can safely shoot the bad guy because their ammo wouldn't dare over-penetrate enough to injure the innocent. Forget about that crowd behind the bad guy. They'll be safe. If anyone takes the shot based on that attitude that is the careless technique I was talking about. They depend on their ammo to keep bystanders safe, and they never for a minute consider that they are endangering others when they miss.
True story. Search for Jacksonville Wendy's Shooting. Four people in a car. Remember that. They were all inside a car. A mama, a toddler, an infant, and a carjacking bank robbery suspect. The officers on scene decided to shoot it out based on actions and threats made by the suspect. 42 shots were fired including a few shotgun rounds. 13 of them hit the suspect. 1 of them hit the infant. 1 of them hit the mama. That's right. Out of 42 shots fired only 13 of them hit the bad guy, a couple of the shotgun rounds hit tires, and 2 other rounds hit the innocents. The toddler was critical for days. Mama is walking, but not well. She was hit in the foot, and the toddler was hit in the arm and chest.
You Will Miss! These people were all inside the same car and how many rounds missed?
Get the best ammo you can find with the penetration you need and carry it. Use your brain to protect the bystander, not your ammo.