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Old 02-23-2010, 11:56 AM   #11
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Spitty, Does the NC State Patrol supply weapons to their officers? Alot of State agencies do.
Yes they do. S&W M&Ps in 357 sig which is why I'm so interested in it lately. I have no intentions of buying a weapon in this caliber, I'm just discussing it.
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I see .357 Sig in the same light as .45 GAP - possibly useful if you don't have to buy your own ammo. Many LE agencies are fond of both of them while the public generally sees them as high priced options ammo wise...

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So how is .357Sig as a caliber? I keep reading positive and negative, about like the .40S&W gets.

I know the .357 is a necked down .40, but this thread has made me a little curious as to getting a conversion barrel for my XDm for the .357.
357 Sig is a necked down 40. It's not really a 357 caliber, they used that as a marketing sceme. There were trying to replicate the 125gr 357 Magnum round due to it's well known ability as a man stopper. The 357 sig and 357 magnum do NOT interchange in any way shape or form. The sig comes close to the magnum but IMO, the magnum is still the champ no matter the bullet weight.
357 Sig is actually a 9mm on steroids. It uses a .356 diameter bullet just like a 9 but pushes it A LOT faster. 125gr bullet is in the 1400fps area.
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I see .357 Sig in the same light as .45 GAP - possibly useful if you don't have to buy your own ammo. Many LE agencies are fond of both of them while the public generally sees them as high priced options ammo wise...
You pretty much hit the nail on the head there. Good performance rounds, but not the most practical for the average Joe.

I'm happy with mine, but hindsight 20/20...probably woulda gone in a different direction (45acp p220). Having too much fun to unload the 357sig just yet though.
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Yes they do. S&W M&Ps in 357 sig which is why I'm so interested in it lately. I have no intentions of buying a weapon in this caliber, I'm just discussing it.
Sorry, I mis-understood the meaning of your post.
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Sorry, I mis-understood the meaning of your post.
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Texas DPS was the first (IIRC) to adopt the Sig round. They wanted it specifically to punch holes in cars. Most of their officer involved shootings occur in and around cars/trucks. The .45 was just not sufficient. The Sig round is available in several different loadings. DPS uses a .357 Sig load that has a very shallow hollow point. It does go through car doors VERY well. It does, however, tend to overpenetrate soft targets. Speer makes another 125 gr HP that has a deep hollow point and should expand exceptionally well in a soft target.

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Texas DPS was the first (IIRC) to adopt the Sig round. They wanted it specifically to punch holes in cars. Most of their officer involved shootings occur in and around cars/trucks. The .45 was just not sufficient. The Sig round is available in several different loadings. DPS uses a .357 Sig load that has a very shallow hollow point. It does go through car doors VERY well. It does, however, tend to overpenetrate soft targets. Speer makes another 125 gr HP that has a deep hollow point and should expand exceptionally well in a soft target.
Punching thru car doors/glass is exactly why the NCHP selcted it.
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