[locutus]

I often drop my Beretta 950, .25 in my pocket.

Remember, 90 percent of people don't know squat about weapons. If they see a "gun" all aggression stops immediately, whether that gun is a .25 ACP or a .50 Desert Eagle.

While no one in their right mind would depend on a .22,.25,.32 for a primary SD weapon, thousands of LEOs, and other professionals carry a .25 for a BUG.

[purehavoc]

I have a old 50+ yrs old .25 auto that my father gave me , it doesnt have much for sights besides a tiny notch on the back and a little raised piece of steel on the front but at 7 yards it will group about 4-5" 5 shot groups , another step past that and its all over the place. I wouldnt stake my life using it as a primary , but a secondary close quarter trouble situation , I wouldnt want to be on the receiving end .

[therewolf]

In any event, after having some experience with .25s, I would not

get one for S/D, either.

If I were going for a BUG this small, I'd just go

all the way down to the .22LR.

[locutus]

Originally Posted by therewolf

In any event, after having some experience with .25s, I would not

get one for S/D, either.

If I were going for a BUG this small, I'd just go

all the way down to the .22LR.

The trouble with .22 LR is it's a rimfire, and not nearly as reliable as the centerfire .25.

[Werminator]

Personally I don't have a carry permit but in my home I don't have faith in calibers below 9mm. I feel the. 380 is quite diminutive in this role but would be far far better than the .25acp or even the .32acp... if you are seriously.considering this caliber then I would be highly selective about the ammo I used and do lots of reading about velocity, penetration, and expansion of your various options...

[phildenton]

I had chance to shoot a smith and Wesson chiefs special in. 38, best most pleasant handgun i have ever shot. Better than some 22 pistols. And the 38 still has plenty of power (for defensive use i would probably load .38 spc +p)

And the barrel was short ( around 2")

[therewolf]

Originally Posted by locutus

The trouble with .22 LR is it's a rimfire, and not nearly as reliable as the centerfire .25.

I beg your pardon, but that's not my experience...

[locutus]

Originally Posted by therewolf

I beg your pardon, but that's not my experience...

Perhaps not.

But that's the experience of the FBI academy, the NRA law enforcement activities division, and most European governmental agencies.


Center fire is just more reliable than rim fire.

[therewolf]

Let me qualify this response, IF you use quality

.22LR pistol ammo. IME, the .25 ammo works OK,

although not as dependably as 9mm or .45Aacp,

but the guns themselves jam much more often

than 22LR ammo misfires.

[axxe55]

the 25 acp and a pistol in that caliber would not be a first or even second choice for a SD/HD or a CC firearm. but a 25 would be much better than nothing up close and personal. if i were to carry one, it would definately be a secondary pistol, not the primary. i have owned a couple in the past, but really don't see another in the future for me. i would rather have the 380 rather than the 25.