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Old 04-07-2012, 03:37 PM   #1
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Default The .22 is the new .380

When obama became the apologists in chief, .380 was making grown wet their pants with lust!

.380 ammo just couldn't be found or bought.

Now everything is .22 this .22 that. 1911 .22, pocket .22, AR-15 .22, police duty weapon .22, and it seems to have worked. People are losing their minds over .22s

I know the built in excuses. cheap plinking, good starter gun, ect.

But it's more than that. The tacticoolmarket is really getting a head of steam and people are eating it up.

So I guess the point of this thread is to see why? Does anybody carry a .22 for EDC? Night stand gun a .22? Truck gun a .22? I think Springfield says it best.The .22 is the new .380 - Semi-Auto Handguns
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Old 04-07-2012, 04:21 PM   #2
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I'd never rely on a .22 for SD, unless it was all I had. I think the .22 has been popular for way too long for it to be considered a fad and has got to be aguably one of the most versatile calibers ever made.

http://www.henryrepeating.com/rifle-survival-ar7.cfm

I've been looking at this for a truck/woods/get home gun...

I never understood the .380 craze myself, I can see why people like it but it's just not for me...just my .02...
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Old 04-07-2012, 05:25 PM   #3
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I think one thing many folks miss completely is

the .22LR has very respectable penetration,

given it's diameter.

Not serious stopping power, per se. Not

only deadly, and very concealable, but more

accurate, as well.

Face it, you get shot CBM, you're going to the hospital, if you

want to live. And a disproportionately high amount of people

don't survive .22 wounds, compared to other calibers...

I guess I got in on this ".22 craze" early. I have four, and they are

my favorite guns.

I never was a fan of the .380, I was afraid I'd get my ammo mixed

with my 9mm.

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I think the only practical gun would be the Kel-Tec PMR 30....holds 30 rounds of .22 magnum in the standard magazine and weights less than a pound fully loaded.

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.22 magum is a different beast. It really isn't part of this discussion. The PMR-30 is really without peer and created its own category.

Yes, more people die from .22's (So I have heard...), but that doesn't in any way speak to stopping the fight in someone. A BG might later die from getting shot by someone defending their life with a .22, but I doubt that BG was stopped in his tracks by hypovolemic shock after being shot.

I also think that the bug craze of .22 guns is more about having fun at the range with the same sorts of guns you may have for protection in real calibers. People are just wanting to have more cheap fun.
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I'd only carry a 22 under the condition that I was carrying 2 9mms with two spare clips a piece and for whatever reason I still don't feel comfortable. Even then, it'd probably be a compact.
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I'm not much on the AR's either, but some people really get into them with the various attachments (picatinny this & that, pink vette, beach house, ipod holder).
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The biggest problem with the 22lr is the high rate of misfires. How many times have you had a cf not fire because of a bad primer? How many times have you had a 22lr not fire because of primer issues. Not counting crappy Tula ammo, I have had 3 dead cf primers in over 50 years. The Tula all fired the 2nd time and I wont buy anymore. I have tossed a lot of 22lr that would not fire even with multiple strikes. Reliability was the reason Browning designed the 25 auto.
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I personally carry a chiappa 1911 .22 as my open carry. A .22 will have the same effect on someone as a .45 ,however there is not the stopping power but its cheap,easy to shoot, accurate, my wife can shoot it without fear of recoil.
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