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Old 08-05-2013, 03:38 AM   #331
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So there's a 9% failure rate with the Apollo Saturn V and a 1.49% failure rate with the Shuttle mathematically speaking. Hmmmmm.......
How many Apollo capsules were lost in flight?

ZERO

How many orbiters were lost in flight?

TWO
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I think the Prophet, JMB, could take out Gaston in a dual.

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Maybe you can.
Just going off what you said
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How many Apollo capsules were lost in flight?

ZERO

How many orbiters were lost in flight?

TWO
I just said failure. Not lost in flight.... Partial failure is stills failure...
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I just said failure. Not lost in flight.... Partial failure is stills failure...
If a space craft is pieces all over the Atlantic, I call that a failure.

Any landing you can walk away from is a good one.
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i will say this. i like 1911's more than any polymer pistol, and not just Glocks, any polymer pistol. i have only shopped for one polymer pistol in my life about seven or eight years ago, and that ended up being a Walther P99QA that we bought for my wife. pretty much any polymer pistol is a purchase of opportunity and not because i was shopping for one. i do shop for 1911's. i will buy a polymer pistol if it's at the right price and such. pretty much how i ended up buying my SA XDm40. a purchase of opportunity. it was very lightly used, (about 50 rounds through it) and was priced right. i like it, but i will never have the connection with it that i do with my 1911's. call me nostalgic or old fashioned or whatever, and it is partly emotional, but that does not in any way make my 1911's any less reliable or unsafe to use. does not make them any more reliable than any polymer pistol either.

simple fact, that anything that has moving parts or was manmade, it can fail. parts wear out, and parts do break. with a 1911, you can pick the pistol to fit the needs of it's intended purpose. want a super accurate range or competition shooting 1911? well they make those. want a slim and compact 1911 for carrying? they make them too. want a fun range pistol? guess what? they make them too! they make 1911's in every type of flavor for just about any purpose a person could have a need for. different metals, different finishes, calibers, sizes, capacity and ect., ect.,,,,,,

the list of reliable 1911's would surely outnumber those that are unreliable by a far margin. i trust any of my 1911's as much as i trust my XDm40. yes my XDm has a much higher mag capacity, than my 1911's. (16 vs 6,7, and 8) but i trust them to do the job they were designed to do just the same as i do the XDm.

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Umm... How many Apollo capsules were lost in flight?

How many orbiters were lost?

Spend more money and get a better product.
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There was 1 partial failure out of 11 launches within 5 years. There have been 2 shuttle disasters I believe, the Challenger and Columbia out of 134 launches.....

And spend more money and get a better product? So I can spend 1k and get a nice 1911 instead of 600 and buy a Glock then? Because that'd be a better product then from what you just said
Let's see. That works out to a 9.1% failure rate for the Apollo capsules, and a 1.5% failure rate for the space shuttle.

I'll take my chances with the space shuttle.
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If a space craft is pieces all over the Atlantic, I call that a failure.

Any landing you can walk away from is a good one.
That it is a good one when you walk away. But a failure is a failure. No if ands or buts. If I have a stove pipe jam, that's a failure. If my gun blows up, that is also a failure. End of story.
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Let's see. That works out to a 9.1% failure rate for the Apollo capsules, and a 1.5% failure rate for the space shuttle.

I'll take my chances with the space shuttle.
You like to live dangerously.

Everone who flew Apollo lived. 14 people who flew Space Shuttle did not.
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You like to live dangerously.

Everone who flew Apollo lived. 14 people who flew Space Shuttle did not.
Apollo 13 barely made it back. It was a miracle that the crew survived. Despite what you'd like to believe, it was still a failure. The Apollo design failed that crew.

Considering the number of Apollo missions vs space shuttle missions, the space shuttle is far safer. There is a MUCH lower chance of anything going wrong. Of course, that doesn't align with your misguided attempt to prove that less parts are always better, so you'll probably just ignore that fact.
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