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View Poll Results: 1911 or Glock
1911 44 69.84%
Glock 19 30.16%
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Old 08-04-2013, 09:44 PM   #251
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There are none so blind as those who will not see...

FACT: I will carry a 1911 with confidence.

FACT: I won't endanger myself, or anybody else,

by risking carrying a glock

FACT: 66% of this poll agrees with, oh,er, me.

Get a dictionary.
So facts are whatever you say!!! So I'm risking peoples lives because I carry a GLOCK, really?? The poll asked what you preferred Mr. Reporter. Since you have ALL these FACTS lets see the stats/data?::::

Here's the definition of fact:


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So you do need more than just what comes out of your mouth.. Mr. Reporter are you going to be like the media and say all firearms are evil and bad?
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IMHO, fit, finish, quality of materials and quality of workmanship would have A LOT to do with it. 1911 has way more time under it's belt; if it was not reliable, people would have stopped using them long ago. Glocks also work, otherwise there would not be so many cops using them.
Besides, people like machinery, some more complicated than others. If this were not true, we'd still be telling time with sundials, and would not have clocks and watches, ya?

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At the meetings last week, we decided to again go with big fonts? Make a trip to the water cooler, and miss out on the important stuff.

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IMHO, fit, finish, quality of materials and quality of workmanship would have A LOT to do with it. 1911 has way more time under it's belt; if it was not reliable, people would have stopped using them long ago. Glocks also work, otherwise there would not be so many cops using them.
Besides, people like machinery, some more complicated than others. If this were not true, we'd still be telling time with sundials, and would not have clocks and watches, ya?
How often do sundials require maintenance to keep them operational and what is the cost of that maintenance in terms of time and materials?

It's true that they don't work particularly well, or sometimes even at all on a cloudy day or at night, but could you explain how a sundial is less mechanically efficient than a watch?

Last time I checked, sun dials don't require mechanical force or batteries for operation.
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Flip a coin, and I read it slightly more often comes up heads. Both sides are pretty much exactly the same in form, fit, function, and such. Just boils down to what side you want to bet on.

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Point being that some people like more complicated machinery, and sometimes it just ends up naturally that way. And that's not always a detriment, or a bad thing. That's all.

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To my way of thinking, based on what I understand of mathematics and mechanical design, a more simplistic mechanical operation is more reliable than a more complicated one, all other factors being equal. I'm not stating that it's not possible to build a pistol that's just as reliable in terms of MTBF as a simpler design, just that a mechanically more complicated design can and probably will have more failures, if time and money is limited.

If time and money were no object, then we could build fantastically sophisticated mechanical designs with very good reliability. In real life, time and money is limited for both individuals and organizations. Some have more time and resources than others and resource allocation varies.

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I owned a G17 and a Colt Mk IV series 80 back in late 80s/early 90s. I used the Colt for carry and for home defense. I only plinked with the Glock. I trusted the Colt more then the Glock. The Colt hit targets just as well as Glock, well actually the 45 was more accurate. I can also hit targets further downrange with great accuracy. The Colt got me out of two scary situations. I sold both guns eventually when I moved back to Germany. Got a lot more for the Colt. A whole lot more. Well, I would prefer a 1911. It is not outdated. If it was, they would not be continually made and updated. Same as my CZ having a 98 Mauser bolt action system. If it works...

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Really man? Come one, just because you're gettin torn up in one thread, doesn't mean you should start essentially the same thread but without the poll.
We all understand your position at this point.
Arguing on the internet never changed anything.

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Really man? Come one, just because you're gettin torn up in one thread, doesn't mean you should start essentially the same thread but without the poll.
We all understand your position at this point.
Arguing on the internet never changed anything.
Which thread is that?

KBD, I do agree with the basis of that argument, BTW. Simpler is better. (But complicated can be cool, LOL)
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