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Old 04-17-2013, 09:50 PM   #11
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The 1911 is the pistol I trust my personal protection. That is confidence in reliability. The most frequent problems I see with 1911 is the shooter not holding it like he loves it. They do not like a limp wrist.

I am old and set in my ways, and although I understand that the Glocks are fine hand guns, I just can't stand the thought of buying a plastic gun. I understand steel and wood.
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I'll add that I carry a Glock sometimes. I also carry 1911s sometimes.

As I said the 1911 will take a lot more than I thought it would, just not quite as much as the Glock, in the way if some pretty extreme exposure to dirt or mud. In my normal carry situations the gun I carry isn't going to be exposed to those extremes, and I would bet on my Glocks or my 1911s to perform when called upon, if needed.

I also make it a point to maintain my carry guns to ensure they will be ready if needed. In those conditions both are capable.

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The 1911s of WW2 could take more abuse then modern 1911s. The inside and it's machanisms were more loose which helped with objects being trapped inside the gun. If you do not believe me, try shaking the older 1911s, lots of rattling.

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The 1911s of WW2 could take more abuse then modern 1911s. The inside and it's machanisms were more loose which helped with objects being trapped inside the gun. If you do not believe me, try shaking the older 1911s, lots of rattling.
That doesn't keep grit in the leaf spring area from causing problems, or from wedging between teh hammer and frame/slide or getting in the trigger tracks.

Those were ultimately the vulnerable areas that turned out to be problems when i decided to put my 1911 to the test. It wasn't the slide to frame fit, or the barrel bushing fit that cause any of the reliability issues. A well made 1911 can have a good fit and still be reliable, but the design does allow dirt to get into places that would jam any gun.

Again they are reliable, to a point. If you don't abuse it, or take care of it after abuse it will be fine.
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Are 1911's as reliable as a glock? ...
Under what circumstances?
Are we talking extreme, awful wartime conditions? Or the condition most guns live in, clean and reasonably well kept. Lets face it, most SD and CC gun's biggest enemies are sweat, dust bunnies and lint with the odd rain storm thrown in.
Head to head at the range, a well sorted & properly maintained 1911 will probably be 100% (mine generally are). As I would expect, so would a Glock.
Now dragged through mud, sand and so forth, I suspect that the Glock would tolerate more abuse before having issues. But then what does that actually tell us? You can probably abuse your Glock more than a 1911 before you have problems. Big deal. For 98% of the population, the horror show endurance tests are irrelevant. Most quality firearms will be extremely reliable given the conditions most will face.
My favorite carry gun is a 1911. I have every expectation that it will work when needed, if I do my part.
The few problems I've had with 1911s have been either Magazine related or user caused.
Mags are the biggest weakness of the 1911 (IMHO). Spend good money and buy good quality mags. Keep them clean.
User caused can be nearly anything. In my case it was OAL with my early reloads. I suspect that people polishing things with a Dremel have cause more than a few issues as well.
The 1911 isn't as idiot proof as the Glock, but it has nothing to apologize for either.
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