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altec 05-30-2013 08:57 PM

Permit needed for percussian cap revolver or ammo?
I've never owned a firearm, but have been wanting an old percussian cap revolver for a while now. But I have a few questions:

1. I don't need to bother getting a permit for it or the ammo since both federal and NC state laws consider it an antique firearm?

2. What if I buy the revolver or ammo over the internet? Then would I have to have a permit if the company is located in a state with more restrictive laws?

3. Is this something where it is better to be safe than sorry, and just go through the hassle of getting a permit anyway?

trip286 05-30-2013 09:06 PM

It's great to go ahead and get a carry permit if you can, for a number of reasons.

But with black powder, in some (most, if not all) states, they can be shipped right to your door.

Find a local 2A lawyer and discuss it. From my time in NC, IIRC, you don't need a permit to buy, own, or carry a black powder revolver, but always double check with a lawyer.

c3shooter 05-30-2013 09:37 PM

NC requires a purchase permit to by a handgun- even from a private seller. However, a ball and cap revolver is not a firearm. It is an ANTIQUE- even if made this morning. Last time I looked, a purchse permit was NOT required, and yes, can be shipped directly to you if you are an adult. However, I am not a lawyer, and would urge you to check with the NC state police.

nitestalker 05-30-2013 09:40 PM

It seems that black powder arms in many jurisdictions are treated as antique firearms. They are considered to be firearms not likely to be used in criminal acts.
However they are considered firearms. They are treated as firearms when going armed open or concealed. They usually require a CCW if you live in a state where carry permits are the rule. :)

MattShlock 05-30-2013 09:59 PM

They are considered a firearm once loaded only. Maybe twice. :)

MisterMcCool 05-30-2013 10:01 PM

While you do not need a permit to purchase or own a black powder pistol, it is still a pistol. If your state requires a concealed carry permit, you must have one to carry. If you are not legally able to possess a firearm, you also cannot possess a black powder firearm. And you must be at least 21 to own a pistol.

trip286 05-30-2013 10:39 PM

A cap and ball revolver is not considered a firearm, period, by BATF. LOADED OR NOT. Also means felons can own, IF not restricted by local state law.
Any permitting concerns would be state level only.
Mississippi law reflects BATF considerations exactly, I only know that, and it's been pertinent to me because it was my home state.
I'm pretty sure NC is almost identical regarding black powder revolvers.
Many state laws require 18 or older to purchase, same as pocket knives, because liberal parents like to sue.

How do you permit a non firearm...with a permit pertaining to firearms?

altec 05-30-2013 10:46 PM

I'll get the permit to stay on the safe side. Thanks!

trip286 05-30-2013 10:52 PM


Originally Posted by altec (Post 1262657)
I'll get the permit to stay on the safe side. Thanks!

That's a great idea. Treat it like any other gun, and you can't go wrong.

nitestalker 05-30-2013 11:11 PM

Under Mississippi Law antiques and reproduction firearms receive no special description. They are treated under the same laws as all other firearms. See Statute regarding Antiques. :)

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