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Old 04-18-2014, 01:34 AM   #1
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Default Any NJ Self-Defense Law?

I've been doing some research on gun self defense and I'm not finding nothing. I know there's no such thing as self defense in the state of New Jersey. But I know there has to be one in case someone breaks into your home. I live in a city that's high in crime (Newark). Just want to know some can and cant do's being a gun owner in the state of New Jersey


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Old 04-18-2014, 01:51 AM   #2
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In NJ you have to be in fear of your life. Back against the wall and shoot to kill or they will sue you. Also the perp has to be armed. Jersey sucks like that.


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When I was going through the process of getting my permits and Card I overheard a detective explaining that NJ is a "Retreat State", you must be backed into a corner in order to shoot the intruder. Sucks for me because our bedrooms are upstairs and I intend to lay down on the landing and shoot anyone that doesn't hear the "click click" of my chamber loading and start coming upstairs instead of leaving through the front door.
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Have you checked the 2C statutes? there is quite a bit on the subject in there.Spend some money and take Andy Branca's seminars. He holds them all over the country and they are state specific.

http://lawofselfdefense.com/
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This is only one of the reasons why I moved to Florida.

Now 10 years ago, and I'm not sure if the NJ law has changed

since, you were expected to run out the back door, when the BGs

were kicking down the front door. Then you can seek what shelter

you can find outside, while the BGs are nice and cozy in your house,

trashing the place. Hope you grabbed your(charged, right?) cell

phone, coat, hat, boots, and wallet. Then you could call 911 and

ask the police to see about

bringing you some blankets, and, if they're not too busy, when

they get around to it, try to see what they can do about investigating

a break-in at your house. Now, you did bring evidence of ownership

of the domicile, when you ran out the back door, to escape the new

residents, right? Just one more question, there, Mister NJ, HOW MUCH

are your mortgage and taxes?

BTW, a majority of your peers voted for the HD laws in your state to be this way...

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I kinda thought the more left a State leaned the less you had a right to defend yourself.

After all cheery thoughts of rainbow ponies and fat Democratic party donations are going to be enough to keep your wife and children safe, after all bad people with ill intent dont exist outside of prision and overseas in some distant violent land.
Every good Democrat knows Bad things only happen to Republicans and Right wingers.
After all when you sell your soul to satan what possible harm can befall you then?

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This is a chain that hangs around Chris Christies neck and one of the reasons he can't get any traction in the primaries.
You can't tout your belief in the 2nd ammendment and continue to govern a state that prohibits a citizen's rights in such a manner without some sort of track record to prove your views. Giving 6 pardons to out of staters who were caught with legally owned firearms doesn't go very far.
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you were expected to run out the back door, when the BGs
were kicking down the front door
You're interpitation of the NJ law is totally incorrect. Much like everyone's thought that HP is illegial, this is why attendance at a top law seminar is needed by everyone. Get Andy's book and read it with the state suppliment at the very least.

The "duty to retreat" was be held to a standard of when it can be safely done. Not unlike other states.

People are talking about how common “stand your ground” states are compared to “duty to retreat” states, so I thought I’d do a bit of looking to see the current head count. First, let me explain what I mean by “duty to retreat,” which is something of a misnomer (though a very common one):

Say that a defendant is facing the risk of death or serious bodily injury (or rape or kidnapping or, in some states, robbery or some other crimes). And say that the defendant

1.is not in his home or other property that he owns or his place of business,
2.is in a place where he may lawfully be,
3.is not engaged in the commission of such crime, and
4.has not attacked the victim first or deliberately provoked the victim with the specific purpose of getting the victim to attack or threaten him.

In duty-to-retreat states, the defendant is not legally allowed to use deadly force to defend himself if the jury concludes that he could have safely avoided the risk of death or serious bodily injury (or the other relevant crimes) by retreating.


Here's some info but getting and education in law, escepially in this area is foolish.
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You're interpitation of the NJ law is totally incorrect.
I already got quite an education over the 50

years I was ACTUALLY IN New Jersey, thank you.

Here's some stuff to "interpit":

1. Police there, mainly guys who make the Rizzo's Raiders goon
squads look like the Vienna Boy's Choir, have a funny way of
deciding for themselves what's "legal" "law" and "justice",
and they are backed by the court system, which pretty much
supports their every move, with the possible exception of highly
publicized cases, or if they wind up running into somebody richer
than God.

2. While for the layman "ignorance of the law is no excuse" the
LE community in NJ, the very people whose bread and butter is
"upholding the law", (and I use that term VERY loosely) not only
DON'T KNOW THE LAW, they are regularly excused for it, by,
(you got it) the court system.

3. These fine folk spend a high proportion of time sucking donuts
and coffee, and giving out speeding tickets to LACs, who can't figure
out why keeping drugs out of their kids school system, or monitoring
suspicious or dangerous aliens(for instance) isn't a higher priority
to the police than driving up their car insurance rates.

4. They, however, while being entrusted "to protect and serve" the
public, take offense at what they deem "low priority" or "unnecessary"
calls from LACs requesting their help, and usually take at least
45 to 90 minutes to respond to any non-emergency, and many times
come out and start a fishing expedition which results in the LAC being
fined or inconvenienced.




...maybe the police and court system in NJ need to go to one of

those law seminars, and read Andy's book. Because Justice in NJ

isn't what you think it is, unless you have a 600$ an hour attorney

to make it so.


So do yourself a big favor, and take it from somebody who has

A LOT of boots on the ground experience in this area.


You will probably, for your own good, want to stay out of NJ.
Because it's not whatever it is in New Hampshire that you think
it is...
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Once again we have someone who asks a valid question and we get back a internet commando response. You haven't cited one case law, nor and applicable statutes.

Meanwhile, living in NJ for over fifty years starting at the now gone but active club in Secaucus in 64 and shooting competitively soon after at several now gone ranges. . Care to march legal or firearm's traing? Currently holding several NRA instructor certs up to Personal Protection Outside the Home and been fortunate to be able to get involved in a rather large firearm's company which allows training to a advanced level weekly.


So far, all you have done is claim you lived in the state and owned a gun. Wow. BTW, I still own considerable property in NJ. Do you? If not, by your standards, I'm more qualified based solely on attachment to the state. Yet I don't claim to be an expert. I simply steer anyone who has the desire to learn in the right direction and not whine. In your entire rant, I'm baffled as to any data that would help in that area.
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