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Striker fired pistols are the wave of the future.
So are polymer frames.
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01-28-2013, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by locutus
Striker fired pistols are the wave of the future.
So are polymer frames.
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I've been hearing that for years. But somehow external hammer pistols seem to keep being made in great numbers.
There are many like myself that just don't like them. It's not about performance or any of the other things I hear bad. It's that I just don't like them. The last plastic fantastic I owned had a hammer. I guess it's like computers. I see them getting easier to use and maintain but that does not mean I have to be one of the masses that has no idea how the magic porn box works. Striker fired pistols are generally easier to work on. That might be great for some people, just not me.
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01-28-2013, 08:12 PM
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Striker fired firearms are a wave of the past. All bolt action firearms are striker fired.
No real difference in end result a bullet gets fired. Its how well the hammer or striker system is designed that matters. There are just as many crappy hammer designs as there are strikers.
The trend towards polymer involves weight. Lighter guns are easier to carry. Polymer frames however do not tend to balance well as the magazine gets close to empty.
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01-29-2013, 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by BERSATHUNDER9HC
Guns and roses are indeed the greatest band ever! I should have been more specific. Why are all modern striker fired guns plastic framed?
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By your smart alec remark, I guess the Glock does not qualify as a "modern" gun as it was introduced a full 10 years before the "dinosaur" Colt 2000.
Striker fired pistols have the advantage of simpliticy. Fewer moving parts. Easier/cheaper to make.
Polymer is easier/cheaper to produce. Lighter in weight. When properly made, will last a lifetime.
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01-29-2013, 06:08 AM
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All the input is appreciated. The post about keeping the cost down using the striker systems make sense. It is ironic that the military uses da/sa hammer fired.
Last edited by robocop10mm; 01-29-2013 at 02:47 PM.
Reason: Nonsenical attachement. Alex Jones? Really?
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01-29-2013, 10:55 PM
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Not all polymer pistols are striker fired.
Heckler & Koch make a number of poly frame pistols which are hammer guns.
I think I just read something about a poly framed 1911 design pistol. Probably much lighter than a steel frame pistol and easier to manufacture than an alloy frame. (By the way, 'easier to manufacture' means 'cheaper to buy'.) (Usually.)
For what it's worth, I prefer hammer guns. In my mind they are more reliable in terms of ignition. Bolt action rifles work well with strikers, but they have a larger length spring and the compression strength of the firing pin spring in a bolt system is greater - simply because the leverage to cock the spring is greater in a bolt rifle than in a handgun.
I have heard one or two people prefer striker fired guns as the hammer might be blocked or fouled in use and cause a malfunction. Reminds me of horse races.
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01-30-2013, 03:51 PM
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It's a shame that Stoner didn't use a striker in the AR-15/M-16.
The lock time is much faster than a hammer, and accuracy is enhanced by faster lock time.
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01-30-2013, 05:30 PM
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it was probably jam either way
It would probably jam before the next squirrel got shot either way. Actually a striker in that rifle might be the answer to some of its flaws. Plus it is mostly plastic or polymer anyway.
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01-30-2013, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BERSATHUNDER9HC
Im guessing to keep the weight down.
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Weight and cost I'd say. Polymer is cheaper. I'm more a fan of steel, but I do appreciate the reduced weight of the plastics. If it didn't look and feel so "cheap" I'd probably enjoy shooting them, but I'll never again own one.
Now aluminum is my idea of best of both worlds!
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01-30-2013, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by locutus
It's a shame that Stoner didn't use a striker in the AR-15/M-16.
The lock time is much faster than a hammer, and accuracy is enhanced by faster lock time.
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Gotta disagree with Locotus on this one.
The only "fail to ignites" I've ever experienced were in striker fired pistols. Yes a striker AR "could" employ a stronger firing spring but striker channels filed with grime and brass shavings are "maintenance issue" for pistols and that problem would be exacerbated 10 fold in a "direct gas Impingement" system like an AR.
If there is anything the AR does NOT need, it's 1 more finicky part to clean. 
Tack
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