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Old 07-29-2013, 06:39 PM   #11
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I think there's a lot right about the 40S&W, large capacity along with large caliber plus plenty of good handguns and loads available. I like the 45ACP and have three 1911s, including a Colt Series '70, but now carry the shorty forty. As far as cost for cheap practice ammo, 45 tends to cost more and 9mm costs less. For defensive ammo it depends on what you get.

I have the Glock 22, 23 and 27. They're all good but the G23 is just right. Also you can buy the Lone Wolf G23 40-9mm conversion barrel and practice with cheaper 9mm. And that barrel fits in both my G23 and G27!

Yep, there's a lot right about the 40S&W!

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Old 07-29-2013, 07:23 PM   #12
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How do you beat it? I think a 9mm is enough, most always. However, I remember a motto of the belt maker that holds up my pants, The Wilderness:

"Overkill Never Fails"

While you can rarely say never and get away with it (so far so good holding up my britches) a little more lead, and a little more powder, and still having more capacity than a .45acp is not a bad thing.

Yes, I do love 10mm, but after 20 years of lugging that cannon around, I am enjoying the slightly smaller size of the Glock 23C.
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Old 07-29-2013, 07:28 PM   #13
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The recoil is sharp and snappy and unpleasant to me.
Sold both of my pistols in 40 and picked up another in 45, much better to shoot. The 40 is neither good or bad, and that is it's problem. Way more recoil than the 9 mm and extremely less effective than the 45 ACP. I would call it a girllyman caliber.

However I did find a good use for it in this:



Not half bad as a rifle round, just very short range 75 yards.

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Sold both of my pistols in 40 and picked up another in 45, much better to shoot. The 40 is neither good or bad, and that is it's problem. Way more recoil than the 9 mm and extremely less effective than the 45 ACP. I would call it a girllyman caliber.

However I did find a good use for it in this:



Not half bad as a rifle round, just very short range 75 yards.

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Some of your findings, may be at odds to what law enforcement and the military have determined.

One of the newest rounds, .357 Sig I would wager is used by more men in uniform in many states as LOE's than .45acp. The model stamp of 1911 is indicative of the era of when it was placed into service. Lots changes in a century +.

How many LEO's use .40 S&W? lots of them.

Any round has merits. No such thing as a modern round being bad, or talked trash about. .22LR, .25, .380 and up, all have stopping power. All contain deadly force.

Stumbling up to the bar and ordering a bottle of whiskey, and proclaiming all Vodka drinkers are somehow lessor men, is drunk talk.

I own hand guns in .22 Short, .22 LR, .22 Mag, .25acp, 9mm, .357 Sig, .40 S&W, 10mm, .38, .357 mag, .44 special, .44 mag. I have nothing bad to say about any of them. The calibers I do not own, I have owned. Love em all!
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I know women who have no problem handling that caliber regardless of what gun it's fired from.

No surprise there. The reason the FBI adopted the 40 S&W is because the new generation of agents, (read women agents), couldn't handle the size or recoil of the 10mm.
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Old 07-29-2013, 08:54 PM   #16
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What's wrong with it? Nothing. It's just preference; if you prefer it use it. Some people will say its just a compromise between power and capacity. If you compare it side by side to 9mm and 45acp I find it snappy but at the end if the day it's a fine round. Since you like glock get a 17, 21, 22 all stock and see what ya think!

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i happen to like the 40 and have for many years. i liked it from the first time i shot one and then ended up buying one not too long after they came on the market. i have owned many 40 S&W pistols ever since and will probably always own one. my wife has no problems in shooting the 40 and does quite well with it. i find when i want versatility and compromise between size and capacity, the 40 is an excellent choice.

but what can i say, other than haters are going to hate.

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Here's my take.

If you consider the .40 to be a '10mm short and weak', you must consider the 9mm to be the '.357 short and weak'

For the sake of argument, if a 9mm is just as powerful as a 40 and a 9mm makes 36 caliber holes and the .40 makes .40 caliber holes, is that not justification for its use?

9mm, .40, 45, 357 Sig... With the right loads they all do the job exceedingly well, they all have their pros and cons... Can't we all just get along?

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You need to focus on the rear sights, and you shouldn't have as much of a problem
I didn't see any green font? Joke?
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Everyone has their preference for caliber. Mine is whatever I happen to have on hand when I need it, or while shooting it at the range. I try to enjoy shooting every gun I can. Some weapons I have to adapt my grip, or my posture, or take a little more time aiming, but the way I see it there's always something beneficial to be gotten out of the experience. Unless I shoot myself, of course. That hasn't happened yet.

To criticize another person for their choice in caliber is silly and immature. To have your own preference is reasonable and expected.

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