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Old 03-26-2013, 08:52 PM   #21
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These are good groups for me now, age does take its toll:



And I have to admit these are not freehand, I was using two hands.

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I guess I still don't understand why it was an adequate response, but to each their own. I'm really starting to despise gun nuts.
Then why are you a member on a forum full of them!!!! just kidding lighten up a little
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Then why are you a member on a forum full of them!!!! just kidding lighten up a little
I thought we were doing sarcasm? Make Up my mind
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I thought we were doing sarcasm? Make Up my mind
Sarcasm? What's that?
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Sarcasm? What's that?
Some new fad, apparently spreading like Greek fire.
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Do you have standards that you accept for groups?

At 25 yards, free style, mine are
1.5" for revolver,
2.5" for a customized semi-auto,
4" for stock semi-auto,
12" for pocket pistol.

This is what I use to judge handguns by.

How about you?
My handguns are for self-defense. I don't shoot for groups. I shoot as quickly as I can the way it comes out of the holster. There's no cocking it or aiming it. If it has a safety I do disengage it, but that's it. A fist sized area center mass at 15 yards is good enough for me.
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25 yards they need to be within 2" no matter the pistol or I"ll look at what I'm, doing wrong or getting rid of the gun. I shoot some pistols out to 50 yards and I want to be able to hit a 50 round ammo box pretty consistently. more than 2-3 fliers and I'm pretty upset.

Oh..Rifles I don't shoot much over 100 yards as I don't have a whole lot of room to get much more safely. Depending on the rifle I will want to have no trouble placing on a 4"x4" square where I want it to be. Except with 22's, I give myself a little more room with most of them.
Pretty much the same for me. Aimed pistol groups (3 shots) at 50 feet or less go into an area the size of a silver dollar and rifle groups at 50 yds w/o optics the same. Rifles with optics at 100 yds should be inside the diameter of a half dollar. FWIW, I don't normally shoot much past 100 yds either so I don't usually concern myself with "long range" accuracy. I rarely shoot a .22 beyond 50 yds. Other than cutting the distances in half, however, they should be the same as my other rifles (half dollar or less at 50 yards with optics). FWIW, I can easily hit soda cans with my Henry Golden Boy .22lr at 100 yds using the factory sights... SWEET gun!

OTOH, I also use "combat" accuracy, especially with my handguns, as a guideline. That means placing two shots into a 6" area at 25 feet in one second or less with a pistol. Same applies to my personal defense rifles, only at 50 yards or less.
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My 22 rifle at 25 yards. The few outside ones were when I was sighting it in.

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The left target is mine at ten yards with my 92fs and my neo u22. I'm happy if I hit the target with these two since they are my first handguns.

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