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Old 02-19-2014, 07:35 AM   #1
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I am curious as to what people consider the best Russian handguns, or at least usable ones?

How would they be rated as to reliability?

What are the main problems with models -- jamming, overheating?

How do prices compare to those of other countries?

Are there good ones from the Soviet era?

What is the market like?

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You will hear praises for the Makarov and the TT, maybe even for the Krinkof which is not exactly a Russian handgun. The whole category is too diverse to generalize, unless you're doing a school paper. There are Olympic style target pistols, and also the latest striker fired semiauto named AFAIR "Gratch" which is not imported. There is the Nagant revolver. Care to tell what exactly you're interested in?

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I am curious as to what people consider the best Russian handguns, or at least usable ones?

How would they be rated as to reliability?

What are the main problems with models -- jamming, overheating?

How do prices compare to those of other countries?

Are there good ones from the Soviet era?

What is the market like?
well if you broaden the question to include 'former Iron Curtain' the answer is as EZ as CZ
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Welcome to the forum. If you plan on sticking around please head over to the Introduction area and tell us about yourself.

I've never fired any Russian handguns, but I'm a revolver guy so naturally I'm drawn to the Nagant Revolver.

Also, because of its unusual feeding design (cylinder actually moves forward, creating a seal with the forcing cone), it is the only revolver designed that you COULD put a silencer on and have it work effectively. I think that's pretty neat.

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The nagant revolver is probably one of the worst designed revolvers I've ever seen. The trigger pull is north of 20 pounds and not much better in single action.

Makarov are ok.design

Tokarev are ok designs

None of the russian pistols are meant to be carried with a round in the chamber. In the combloc pistols are disciplinary tools not defensive weapons. They are to be used for executions. They don't need good triggers or other carry features

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JonM touches on a good point. Russian war doctrine was very different from Western war doctrine when it comes to small arms design, use and issue. Handguns were a very small part if it at all. NCOs and Officers were generally the people to employ handguns. Of the Cold War era pistols the Makarov is probably the more reliable design, with fewer moving parts, a blowback operating system, an actual manual safety, but a cartridge that was pretty weak by most handgun standards. The 9x18 falls in between the power of a .380 and a 9x19mm NATO round.

The TT33 Tokarev used an odd bottle necked round that was fast, and penetrated very well but was a very small diameter, and light in weight. The pistol, as issued borrowed several design elements from the 1911, but featured no manual safety or grip safety.

The newer service pistols aren't available in the US.

Of iron curtain guns, the CZ 75 is probably one of the most practical, with some of the best quality control from the era. There were also good Hungarian guns that were basically copies of Walther and Browning handguns.

But really the Russians just didn't put that much emphasis on handguns.

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The nagant revolver is probably one of the worst designed revolvers I've ever seen. The trigger pull is north of 20 pounds and not much better in single action.

Makarov are ok.design

Tokarev are ok designs

None of the Russian pistols are meant to be carried with a round in the chamber. .... They don't need good triggers or other carry features
I carry a Makarov with a round in the chamber. After decocking the hammer, it is now in double action mode. The trigger pull is as heavy (9-10 lbs) as any semi or revolver with no additional safeties. After the first round is fired, it is in S/A mode and the trigger has smooth pull and crisp break and then goes bang. Every time!

The free floating firing pin has passed all the drop tests, even in the People's Republik of Kalifornia.

http://www.makarov.com/makfaq.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makarov_pistol

The Makravov is a very accurate compact sized pistol because of its blowback action and is tough as nails. And it's darn fun to shoot.

As for the Tokarev, the Russians adapted John Browning's designs from his FN Model 1903 and the M1911 pistols so it can't be all that bad, can it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TT_pistol
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Easy the stechkin was, but your never gonna find one for sale

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http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg/rus/korovin-tk-e.html this site has a list of almost all the russian handguns ever made including the underwater pistol and the ones that are silenced without using a silencer because its actually silenced ammo.
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I carry a Makarov with a round in the chamber. After decocking the hammer, it is now in double action mode. The trigger pull is as heavy (9-10 lbs) as any semi or revolver with no additional safeties. After the first round is fired, it is in S/A mode and the trigger has smooth pull and crisp break and then goes bang. Every time!

The free floating firing pin has passed all the drop tests, even in the People's Republik of Kalifornia.

http://www.makarov.com/makfaq.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makarov_pistol

The Makravov is a very accurate compact sized pistol because of its blowback action and is tough as nails. And it's darn fun to shoot.

As for the Tokarev, the Russians adapted John Browning's designs from his FN Model 1903 and the M1911 pistols so it can't be all that bad, can it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TT_pistol
im not saying you cant carry one in that manner its just not how the soviet designers and the russian military intended them to be carried
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