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Old 12-07-2012, 02:09 PM   #21
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I'm working on working out the same issue. Low and left. Until I shoot about 3 mags. Then I'm better. Here is a pic of my first mag at the rang the other week. See? Low and left. It took a couple of try's to work it out. I'm new to shooting as well. It could be the gun doesn't fit you. I shot my friends XDM 9mm and didn't have that problem. Also my M&P is a 40.

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Wouldn't an adjustment of the rear sight and lower bead on front when aiming be the simple solution?

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Old 12-08-2012, 01:35 PM   #23
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Wouldn't an adjustment of the rear sight and lower bead on front when aiming be the simple solution?
Sure, if you're content with sloppy technique. The problem won't go away by adjusting the sights, even though it may bring the shots from this gun on target. What happens if he ever decides to go with a fixed sights gun? It's easier to unlearn bad habits early on than it is to try to correct them after years of shooting.
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Sure, if you're content with sloppy technique. The problem won't go away by adjusting the sights, even though it may bring the shots from this gun on target. What happens if he ever decides to go with a fixed sights gun? It's easier to unlearn bad habits early on than it is to try to correct them after years of shooting.
That can go both ways... What if the sights are adjusted poorly to begin with? Just saying, I think that should always be the first suggestion, to align the sights.
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I'm working on working out the same issue. Low and left. Until I shoot about 3 mags. Then I'm better. Here is a pic of my first mag at the rang the other week. See? Low and left. It took a couple of try's to work it out. I'm new to shooting as well. It could be the gun doesn't fit you. I shot my friends XDM 9mm and didn't have that problem. Also my M&P is a 40.
You have about as many centered but low as you do to the left-
Mabe it just you "site picture"
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I took my new M&P9 VTAC to the range today and had a blast. 350 rounds in 30 minutes. No Failures.
My question is what am I doing to cause my shots to go low left? Around 7:30 of my POA.
I am the only gun owner in my family and I have never had proper instruction.
Thanks for any advice.
(This is assuming my gun is fine. I was always told its not the arrow. It's the Indian.)
Dude! 350 rds in 30 minutes? Holy crap!
1. Slow Down! It's not a game to see how fast you can burn through ammo. It will get really expensive and you will still be missing a lot. Another option: join the military and see about being a machine gunner.
2. Slow down. Concentrate on squeezing the trigger.
3. Slow down. Focus on the front sight. Ensure proper sight picture. Proceed to step number 2.
Note: If the term "proper sight picture" is meaningless to you, seek out instruction.
4. Concentrate on shooting well. Fast will follow on it's own, eventually. "Slow is smooth, smooth is fast."
5. Consider seeking out a NRA Basic pistol class. http://www.nrainstructors.org/searchcourse.aspx

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I would think that 350 rounds of anything other than a 22 in 30 minutes would make your hands shake and flench. Did your fingers hurt from reloading mags?
I was wondering the same thing.
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I took my new M&P9 VTAC to the range today and had a blast. 350 rounds in 30 minutes. No Failures.

My question is what am I doing to cause my shots to go low left? Around 7:30 of my POA.

I am the only gun owner in my family and I have never had proper instruction.

Thanks for any advice.

(This is assuming my gun is fine. I was always told its not the arrow. It's the Indian.)
I think it has to do with your hand position. If your right handed use your right hand just for squeezing the trigger and the left to hold the pistol. You want to havr your right thumb ride high in the pistol and the left to sit right in the grove of your right thumb with your left thumb pointing parallel with the barrel.
With targeting dont focus on the target, focus in your front dot as if your reading a book. Line it up with the back sights and over the target.
Stance- you want to have your feet shoulder width apart and lean forward into the gun for better control.
Another thing that helps is pulling the slack out if the trigger as you get ready for your follow up shot. And remember to keep your right hand very relax the left hand is for carrying the wieght of the gun.
With practice you can perfect this technique

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I think it has to do with your hand position. If your right handed use your right hand just for squeezing the trigger and the left to hold the pistol. You want to havr your right thumb ride high in the pistol and the left to sit right in the grove of your right thumb with your left thumb pointing parallel with the barrel.
With targeting dont focus on the target, focus in your front dot as if your reading a book. Line it up with the back sights and over the target.
Stance- you want to have your feet shoulder width apart and lean forward into the gun for better control.
Another thing that helps is pulling the slack out if the trigger as you get ready for your follow up shot. And remember to keep your right hand very relax the left hand is for carrying the wieght of the gun.
With practice you can perfect this technique
Heres pics to help


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That can go both ways... What if the sights are adjusted poorly to begin with? Just saying, I think that should always be the first suggestion, to align the sights.
Actually, rest shooting might be a better suggestion than either one of us had. As long as he concentrates on technique, if a good sight picture from a rest brings it on target it's probably not the sights. That would also encourage slower shooting and give him an idea of what he did wrong when he gets a flyer.
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Actually, rest shooting might be a better suggestion than either one of us had. As long as he concentrates on technique, if a good sight picture from a rest brings it on target it's probably not the sights. That would also encourage slower shooting and give him an idea of what he did wrong when he gets a flyer.
Much agreed.
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