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jp72 08-16-2010 08:32 PM

Up in arms
 
I need advice. About three years ago, my dad gave me his 22 cal. pistol my mother gave to him on thier 1 year anniversary (about 1958). The gun had a little pitting on the metal and the hammer would pull back extremly hard. I took the gun to a local gun shop to have it repaired and reblued. I have brought guns to this shop on 2-3 diferent occasion for the same thing and he usually has the guns for 2-3 years. Not a big deal as i dont use the guns anyway, I just like to have my dads and grandads guns. Well in the first two years, I called a couple of times and he said it was not done yet and he would call when done. another 1 - 1 1/2 years went by so i stopped in to check on it. The gun shop owner tells me he does not have the gun and does not know what i am talking about. I have the claim check for when I dropped the gun off, when I showed this to him he said that he has not used those claim checks for years and someone else must have picked up the gun. It is a gun that is not worth much but my mother gave it to my dad, that is worth alot to me. Can anyone give me advise on what to do next? Is the claim check that I have worth anything? Any help on the matter would be greatly appreciated.

CourtJester 08-16-2010 08:39 PM

No advice for you but I wish you the best of luck man.

orangello 08-16-2010 09:17 PM

I would let the shop owner know that i was planning to report the pistol stolen. I wouldn't want a pistol roaming around free that could be traced back to me, eventually.

I would also look for a 'smith with more of his time to work on projects rather than wasting more of my time. crappy luck, sorry.

StanDJ77 08-16-2010 09:49 PM

I agree, i would report the gun stolen at least. If the shop keeps records of who bought guns, then maybe they can trace the person who purchased it. With that being said, the shop would be at fault, not the customer. A tough lesson learned i guess:(

gatopardo 08-16-2010 11:17 PM

Me too
 
I so definitely agree, that pistol can get you in trouble, report to the police immediately. I you have to sign an affidavit, that will help you just in case:eek:

c3shooter 08-17-2010 01:03 AM

First, you need another smith. Mine just did a reblue in 30 days.

Second, advise the smith (IN WRITING) that he has 5 working days to find your gun. After that, you intend to file a stolen report with local law enforcement, and to notify the BATFE. Chose words carefully, keep a copy.

A smith is required to maintain records of any firearms he keeps more than one day. They have to be logged in and out. IF a gun is returned to ANYONE other than the person that gave it to him in the first place, he legally must treat it as a transfer (just like if you bought a gun). That means a form 4473 that he must retain for 20 years, background check, etc.

Third- the draft you feel is this person puffing sunshine up your skirt. If I went to a mechanic that was restoring my car, and he said "Gee, I don't have it. Someone else must have picked it up.", I WOULD have satisfaction.

In the case of your "gunsmith", I would have my gun- repaired or not, or I would have his license so that he can not pull this crap with someone else.

Rick1967 08-17-2010 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by c3shooter (Post 332992)
First, you need another smith. Mine just did a reblue in 30 days.

Second, advise the smith (IN WRITING) that he has 5 working days to find your gun. After that, you intend to file a stolen report with local law enforcement, and to notify the BATFE. Chose words carefully, keep a copy.

A smith is required to maintain records of any firearms he keeps more than one day. They have to be logged in and out. IF a gun is returned to ANYONE other than the person that gave it to him in the first place, he legally must treat it as a transfer (just like if you bought a gun). That means a form 4473 that he must retain for 20 years, background check, etc.

Third- the draft you feel is this person puffing sunshine up your skirt. If I went to a mechanic that was restoring my car, and he said "Gee, I don't have it. Someone else must have picked it up.", I WOULD have satisfaction.

In the case of your "gunsmith", I would have my gun- repaired or not, or I would have his license so that he can not pull this crap with someone else.

That sounds like wise advice to me!

hunter Joe 08-17-2010 01:52 AM

At the shop I work at we log every firearm in and out and maintain the records for years. c3shooter hit the nail squarely on the head with his post.

Don't be intimidated by the shop owner and don't let the SOB get away with it. I'd promise the store owner that I'd be contacting the Feds and bitching up a $hit storm. The Feds don't look kindly on lost or misplaced firearms in gun stores.

jp72 08-17-2010 12:14 PM

Thanks guys, I will do just that. Appreciate the input.

Mark F 08-17-2010 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jp72 (Post 332869)
I need advice. About three years ago, my dad gave me his 22 cal. pistol my mother gave to him on thier 1 year anniversary (about 1958). The gun had a little pitting on the metal and the hammer would pull back extremly hard. I took the gun to a local gun shop to have it repaired and reblued. I have brought guns to this shop on 2-3 diferent occasion for the same thing and he usually has the guns for 2-3 years. Not a big deal as i dont use the guns anyway, I just like to have my dads and grandads guns. Well in the first two years, I called a couple of times and he said it was not done yet and he would call when done. another 1 - 1 1/2 years went by so i stopped in to check on it. The gun shop owner tells me he does not have the gun and does not know what i am talking about. I have the claim check for when I dropped the gun off, when I showed this to him he said that he has not used those claim checks for years and someone else must have picked up the gun. It is a gun that is not worth much but my mother gave it to my dad, that is worth alot to me. Can anyone give me advise on what to do next? Is the claim check that I have worth anything? Any help on the matter would be greatly appreciated.

Sorry man, but this is blatantly stupid on your part. Leaving ANYTHING (let alone a gun) for more than 30 days is just plain ludicrous. There are literally thousands of Gun Smiths out there. Most are honest hard working people looking to provide quality work at a reasonable price, in a reasonable time frame.

You do need to report this to the BBB, and the police. I'm surprised that POS is still in business... but again, you let it happen.


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