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 01-27-2009, 05:43 AM | #1 | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ft. Campbell, Over there Posts: 523 |  Technique
I am looking for tips and techniques for shooting, namely with handguns. I have a pretty solid rifle style but am always open for improvement. I am open to any help or references. | 
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| 01-27-2009, 08:59 AM | #2 | I'm always 10-8 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: 150 miles NE of Sloppy Joe's Bar, in the "GunShine" State Posts: 17,399 |
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Originally Posted by McNabb11b
I am looking for tips and techniques for shooting, namely with handguns. I have a pretty solid rifle style but am always open for improvement. I am open to any help or references.
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Dig into it and research Jeff Cooper and the American Pistol Institute, aka The Gunsite Academy. May as well learn from the best! __________________ .
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| 01-27-2009, 02:06 PM | #3 | Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Austin, Texas, by God!! Posts: 5,526 |
The Weaver stance is going out of favor these days even though many many people still use it. The Isocoles stance is coming back. You can research these two terms and find a stance that works for you. | |
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| 01-27-2009, 02:42 PM | #4 | Supporting Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,747 |
The scenario:
You're watching TV sitting on the couch with a bowl of popcorn in your lap and a Coors light in your hand. A Perp kicks your door wide open and storms in.
You should:
(A) shout "FREEZE AZZHOLE", while I get my gun and take the Weaver Stance"...
(B) Ask him to join you in a brew, then cap his azz when he's not looking...
(C) simply reach down, grab your cocked & locked and blow this turd into oblivion without spilling popcorn & beer all over yourself.
The point being; you need to be able to shoot from ANY position, ANY place. ANY time. Stances don't cut it except at the gunrange. __________________ *** Don't Mess With TEXAS *** Μολὼν λάβε | |
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| 01-27-2009, 04:26 PM | #5 | Supporting Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,885 |
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Originally Posted by canebrake
Dig into it and research Jeff Cooper and the American Pistol Institute, aka The Gunsite Academy. May as well learn from the best!
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+1 to Col Jeff Cooper. Also, look for info from Massad Ayoob. | |
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| 01-27-2009, 04:37 PM | #6 | Call Me Doug Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: It's because I actually HAVE those skills! Posts: 21,258 |
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Originally Posted by matt g
+1 to Col Jeff Cooper. Also, look for info from Massad Ayoob.
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+1 and +1
I would also recommend the writings of Rob Pincus. Those three will teach you more than you ever needed to know about a gunfight and how to win one...
JD __________________ "as for my Sword & Spear we will serve the throne, but NEVER that man who sits upon it" - Achilles - Warrior of Warriors
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Dillinger didn't have to let me try Cammenga Mags before I bought them; but he is a man of great character & a man who's word to me now is a good as gold. If he recommends it I know its good stuff.
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| 01-27-2009, 04:52 PM | #7 | Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 333 |
Andy Stanford has some very strong information. So does Gabe Suarez.
Your best bet would be to find a class on shooting pistols in your area. I believe Suarez International is trying to arrange one in Billings sometime this summer. | |
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| 01-27-2009, 07:15 PM | #8 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,344 |
Go to youtube, and type in "Pistol Shooting" or "Pistol Stances" or "Gunfighting Stances"
That will give you a starting point. Remember that gunfighting is different for everyone. There is no cookie-cutter approach out there.
The best advice is practice, practice, practice, practice. __________________ "TRAIN WITH WHAT YOU HAVE, NOT WITH WHAT YOU WISH YOU HAVE." | |
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| 01-27-2009, 07:19 PM | #9 | Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ft. Campbell, Over there Posts: 523 |
Billings eh? thanks I will look into it. I was taught to shoot in the weaver stance but have since adopted both for whatever I basically feel like at the time. I have been told a couple of times that the weaver stance is sloppy and to abandon it altogether, but 9 times out of ten when the police are being shot at it seems they instinctively use this and abandon what they had been taught. | |
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| 01-27-2009, 07:23 PM | #10 | Call Me Doug Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: It's because I actually HAVE those skills! Posts: 21,258 |
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Originally Posted by McNabb11b
but 9 times out of ten when the police are being shot at it seems they instinctively use this and abandon what they had been taught.
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I would say that be true for 10 times out of ten for ANYONE being shot at, especially for the first time. The human urge to make one self as small a silhoutte as possible is a strong reaction to have to untrain.
Use what works for you... I have been to two "combat pistol schools" and they both stressed that when you react, you are going to do what comes natural, at that moment and given those surroundings, and not something that was taught to you. Don't fight it, make it work for you and get your rounds on target first, or more accurately if you are already taking fire.
Worrying about where your feet should be, or how wide apart your elbows are, is going to get you drilled. 
JD __________________ "as for my Sword & Spear we will serve the throne, but NEVER that man who sits upon it" - Achilles - Warrior of Warriors
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Originally Posted by doctherock
Dillinger didn't have to let me try Cammenga Mags before I bought them; but he is a man of great character & a man who's word to me now is a good as gold. If he recommends it I know its good stuff.
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