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Old 07-18-2011, 05:03 AM   #21
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woah woah woah....hang on here...OP refers to Original Poster or Creator of the Thread...that would be me....What the heck happened in here?
My apologies. To the nowayout criminal. The OP of the criminal post on this thread.
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My apologies. To the nowayout criminal. The OP of the criminal post on this thread.
Pretty judgemental of ya.......just sayin....guess you never did anything wrong huh?

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They say confession is good for the soul. Maybe so. It's REALLY BAD for everything else. There's always somebody nearby ready and more than willing to kick the cob up your butt.
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Pretty judgemental of ya.......just sayin....guess you never did anything wrong huh?

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So you condone it? Its OK?

And no, I don't believe I've knowingly engaged in illegal straw purchases in the past 3 decades, or sold firearms to felons.......have you?
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Number one - you and your father are guilty of violating a federal weapons law.
Both of you are common criminals and have no right whatsoever to own firearms.
Damn man, who died and made you Judge Judy? That poster made a mistake that MAY eventually get him convicted in a COURTROOM. That conviction will make him a criminal, guilty of and a party to some poor judgement. All of this depends on much more than your considered legal opinion "your honor".

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So you condone it? Its OK?

And no, I don't believe I've knowingly engaged in illegal straw purchases in the past 3 decades, or sold firearms to felons.......have you?
No I haven't you judgmental douche bag....

My apologies to the mods, but I HATE people trying to play cop......
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http://www.atf.gov/publications/download/p/atf-p-5300-4.pdf
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15. STRAW PURCHASES
Questions have arisen concerning the
lawfulness of firearms purchases from
licensees by persons who use a "straw
purchaser" (another person) to acquire
the firearms. Specifically, the actual
buyer uses the straw purchaser to execute the Form 4473 purporting to show
that the straw purchaser is the actual
purchaser of the firearm. In some instances, a straw purchaser is used because the actual purchaser is prohibited
from acquiring the firearm. That is to
say, the actual purchaser is a felon or is
within one of the other prohibited categories of persons who may not lawfully
acquire firearms or is a resident of a
State other than that in which the licensee's business premises is located.
Because of his or her disability, the person uses a straw purchaser who is not
prohibited from purchasing a firearm
from the licensee. In other instances,
neither the straw purchaser nor the actual purchaser is prohibited from acquiring the firearm.
In both instances, the straw purchaser violates Federal law by making
false statements on Form 4473 to the
licensee with respect to the identity of
the actual purchaser of the firearm, as
well as the actual purchaser's residence
address and date of birth. The actual
purchaser who utilized the straw purchaser to acquire a firearm has unlawfully aided and abetted or caused the
making of the false statements. The
licensee selling the firearm under these
circumstances also violates Federal law
if the licensee is aware of the false
statements on the form. It is immaterial
that the actual purchaser and the straw
purchaser are residents of the State in
which the licensee's business premises
is located, are not prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms, and
could have lawfully purchased firearms
from the licensee.
The term "straw purchaser" appears to only apply to the person who purchases the firearms, not the "actual purchaser" whose crime is making a false statement.

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And no, I don't believe I've knowingly engaged in illegal straw purchases in the past 3 decades, or sold firearms to felons.......have you?
Using only the quoted text as evidence (which can easily be manipulated to say anything anyone wants) the person did not make a straw purchase and did not KNOWINGLY (which the law specifies) sell a firearm to a felon.

Someone lock or remove this thread please. My apologies to the OP as this thread was derailed and then rerailed on a dark and bad path and my earlier comment was not directed towards his valid question.
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No I haven't you judgmental douche bag....

My apologies to the mods, but I HATE people trying to play cop......
You've never engaged in said activity, yet you are sympathetic to his situation, um....you......you......YOU'RE A LIBERAL!

Seriously, its not judgemental. It might be heavily opinionated, but not judgemental.

If I was trying to play cop, I'd be attempting to ENFORCE the law, yet I'm merely expressing my opinion.

Try to maintain some intellectual integrity here.
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You've never engaged in said activity, yet you are sympathetic to his situation, um....you......you......YOU'RE A LIBERAL!

Seriously, its not judgemental. It might be heavily opinionated, but not judgemental.

If I was trying to play cop, I'd be attempting to ENFORCE the law, yet I'm merely expressing my opinion.

Try to maintain some intellectual integrity here.
I have tried, youre the one saying that not getting involved with this crap is supporting it. Of course I dont support it, but its between the judge, the lawyers and the individuals now, NONE OF US! Doing everything you can to enhance the situation for the guy that either willingly did it or did it on accident, we dont really know, is poking your nose in others when he chose to remove it himself. If he wished to remove it after seeking advice because he was nervous, that is his business, not yours.
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I'm really sorry that I started this guys. I'm won't come back and I apologize to all that I offended with this post -
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