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Old 03-10-2013, 05:35 AM   #11
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I would not touch it. I would contact colt but I doubt that Colt would ever release a gun like that. Colt provided the complete history on two of my antique Army Colts but for a very hefty charge.

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I am talking out my butt as I have no clue, but if it were old enough, could it be documented with an FFL as a collectors item? Of course you would probably need some sort of history on the firearm as well.

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It looks like that 4 used to be a 1.

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It looks like that 4 used to be a 1.
4? What 4?
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Old 03-10-2013, 03:12 PM   #15
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there are a lot of colt fakes out there where people try to take a common reciever like a ithaca and try to fake a colt serial to mate upp with a colt upper to sell for more money.

its obviously a pre-68 so serial number isnt technically required depending on your state. but it does have an altered serial number and thats against fed rules regardless of date.

if your interested in buying it for a cheap price, less than 450$, contact colt and see what they say about it.

personally i wouldnt touch it.
Here is the Colt logo, does it look faked?
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In the time before 1968 the serial numbers had no legal meaning at all. The serial numbers(if even used) had meaning only to the manufacturer(and military if it was a military gun). The manufacturer or anyone else could do anything they wanted to the serial number on a gun. The restamping on this gun is fairly poorly done(unlikely done by any manufacturer). Could have been done by a gunsmith or owner for some unknown reason or (in later years) by someone trying to "hide" a stolen gun. Now that it has been obviously restamped it could land the person possessing this gun into possible legal trouble.

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Here is the Colt logo, does it look faked?
Even during war production colt didnt screw up stampings. Some makers like ithaca hand stamped serials so there is slight variation from gun to gun. Colt did and does all their stampings by machine using jigs so each one is the same place and same type never double stamps on logos.

I would say forgery and a very bad one at that. Likely it was a parts gun that someone tried to make into a colt
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The "0" at the end could have been a "C" at one time. That would get you charged in Texas with "Possession of Altered ID Numbers". Class A Misdemeanor, a year in the County Gray Bar Hilton.

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Also understand that if this was not a commercial Colt, but a military 1911, there were many manufacturers of parts. Military 1911s that made it to retirement had possibly been rebuilt several times and could have frames from one manufacturer, and slides from another. Serial numbers could be struck over at armory level, to go along with their storage, and rack system.

The Marine Corps 1911's I had seen, often were collections of parts. Springfield slides on Colt frames were one example.

Here's a well loved example. Note that this was from a Marine armory, it has a frame that is stamped for US Army, has electro-pencil on the frame, a Springfield Armory slide, Colt commander hammer, King's beavertail grip safety and ambi safety, Pachmeyer grips, Aluminum trigger, Millet sights. Good things can come together in the hands of some military armorers.

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