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SCC 06-15-2011 07:21 AM

Spare some advice?
 
Hi guys,I am buying my first pistol, but I am having a huge problem deciding between the Sig p228/9 and a glock 17. The fact of the matter is, that the glock 17 is simply the better choice for my philosophy of use. However I am madly in love with the Sig. Help me please! Despite the fact the the Glock is lighter, simpler, single action only and most importantly half the price I cannot help but feel like I am not getting what I want. I want my first handgun to be a purchase that makes me feel like a little kid on Christmas, not, the practical logical robotic decision. I know they are the best choice for civilians and home defense, in fact the only reason I don't like the Glock is cosmetic, I think they are ugly as **** I actually (and honestly) shoot them better than the Sig even, and therein lies my problem. I am sort of considering the fnp9, since they are similar to the Sigs, but again, if I'm gonna buy a $450 gun. it might as well be a Glock right?. If someone could lend a few words I would really appreciate it. Thanks
-Sean

danf_fl 06-15-2011 10:26 AM

What is your purpose of buy a handgun? Self-defense? Target practice?

Every handgun purchase is like buying a house. After you have it for a while, you find things you want to change.

You think the Glock is the better choice, you shoot it better, it is not as expensive as the Sig (notice I did not say "cheaper than the Sig").

IMO, get the Glock for now.

JonM 06-15-2011 12:32 PM

Glocks are a mishmash they are more double action only than anything else.

Get the gun your going to be happy with. A gun you dont like for whatever reason isnt going to be one your going to WANT to shoot enough to become really proficient with.

Just my thoughts

dnthmn2004 06-15-2011 12:46 PM

There are better choices for a $450 polymer frame handgun. I'm voting for the S&W M&P. Aesthetically pleasing and ergonomically correct.

Poink88 06-15-2011 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SCC (Post 523174)
I know they are the best choice for civilians and home defense,...

Best? How did you know this? I actually believe they are great for service carry but for me, there are better choices for SD/HD.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCC (Post 523174)
I actually (and honestly) shoot them better than the Sig even,

Because of this (most important IMHO)...I would say buy the Glock now...buy the Sig later ;)

cddbrowns 06-15-2011 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCC (Post 523174)
Hi guys,I am buying my first pistol, but I am having a huge problem deciding between the Sig p228/9 and a glock 17. The fact of the matter is, that the glock 17 is simply the better choice for my philosophy of use. However I am madly in love with the Sig. Help me please! Despite the fact the the Glock is lighter, simpler, single action only and most importantly half the price I cannot help but feel like I am not getting what I want. I want my first handgun to be a purchase that makes me feel like a little kid on Christmas, not, the practical logical robotic decision. I know they are the best choice for civilians and home defense, in fact the only reason I don't like the Glock is cosmetic, I think they are ugly as **** I actually (and honestly) shoot them better than the Sig even, and therein lies my problem. I am sort of considering the fnp9, since they are similar to the Sigs, but again, if I'm gonna buy a $450 gun. it might as well be a Glock right?. If someone could lend a few words I would really appreciate it. Thanks
-Sean

Right there in bold should tell you everything you need to know....

knfxda 06-15-2011 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCC (Post 523174)
Hi guys,I am buying my first pistol, but I am having a huge problem deciding between the Sig p228/9 and a glock 17. The fact of the matter is, that the glock 17 is simply the better choice for my philosophy of use. However I am madly in love with the Sig. Help me please! Despite the fact the the Glock is lighter, simpler, single action only and most importantly half the price I cannot help but feel like I am not getting what I want. I want my first handgun to be a purchase that makes me feel like a little kid on Christmas, not, the practical logical robotic decision. I know they are the best choice for civilians and home defense, in fact the only reason I don't like the Glock is cosmetic, I think they are ugly as **** I actually (and honestly) shoot them better than the Sig even, and therein lies my problem. I am sort of considering the fnp9, since they are similar to the Sigs, but again, if I'm gonna buy a $450 gun. it might as well be a Glock right?. If someone could lend a few words I would really appreciate it. Thanks
-Sean

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you are heavily influenced by nutnfancy based on the choice of a G17 and based on the term "philosophy of use". Stop me if I am wrong... ;) (Oh, and there's nothing wrong with either of these things, but it's the basis for my response, so if I'm wrong, disregard).

ntf's love of all things that are light, I think, is a poor starting point for an HD gun. To me, the idea of an HD gun is the gun that you shoot the best and can put into action under stress. Why would light weight factor into this unless you're releatively small or comparitively weak that the weight of the gun is going to cause you to not shoot well?

Now, for a carry or conceal carry, weight factors in much higher because 99.9999% of the time, you'll simply be carrying the gun and not shooting it.

My opinion is get the gun that you shoot the best that you can afford. I'm in the same boat as you and my analysis has taken me from the G17 to all metal guns and then back to a polymer gun (XDM9).

Why? For me, I realized that I shoot heavier guns better than lighter guns, I loved the P226 and P229, but my wife hates them and I could not justify the cost. I shoot the XDM extremely well, my wife likes it, and it's priced right.

So, I might suggest that you keep looking to find something that has enough of what you want from the SIG and that you shoot as well or better than the G17, that's priced well enough for you the drop the hammer without a second thought. (Pun intended, unfortunately) :D

utf59 06-15-2011 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCC (Post 523174)
Hi guys,I am buying my first pistol, but I am having a huge problem deciding between the Sig p228/9 and a glock 17. The fact of the matter is, that the glock 17 is simply the better choice for my philosophy of use. However I am madly in love with the Sig. Help me please! Despite the fact the the Glock is lighter, simpler, single action only and most importantly half the price I cannot help but feel like I am not getting what I want. I want my first handgun to be a purchase that makes me feel like a little kid on Christmas, not, the practical logical robotic decision. I know they are the best choice for civilians and home defense, in fact the only reason I don't like the Glock is cosmetic, I think they are ugly as **** I actually (and honestly) shoot them better than the Sig even, and therein lies my problem. I am sort of considering the fnp9, since they are similar to the Sigs, but again, if I'm gonna buy a $450 gun. it might as well be a Glock right?. If someone could lend a few words I would really appreciate it. Thanks
-Sean

What, exactly, is your "philosophy of use"?

After reading your post, it seems to me that the Sig isn't what you want and the Glock also isn't what you want. Instead of choosing between them, perhaps you should be crossing both off your list.

We can all tell you about our favorite guns and why we like them, but without knowing what you want from the gun, we can't really help you.

fireguy 06-15-2011 06:29 PM

If you really like the Sig, get it. For range shooting you will like the heavier pistols better for recoil management. Disclaimer: I am not a Glock fan. Just not for me. I do have and shoot polymer 9mm's. A XDm and Keltec P11. I also have a heavy Ruger P89 that is great for range shooting. Get what you want and will be happy with. Make sure it fits your hand well. Learn it, love it, and shoot it. Enjoy.

orangello 06-15-2011 08:08 PM

They are like chips; most will want a second, and a third. Get the more affordable one now and the fancy one later. Just make sure that you can enjoy the affordable one enough to practice with it.


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