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Don Lu 08-07-2007 12:32 AM

someone please educate me on Twist and rifling
 
I know it has something to do with the grooves and the accuraacy of a gun, but I need to know more.

Etho 08-07-2007 05:47 AM

Yep it's grooves(lands) cut in the barrel. It gets the bullet spinning so it is more accurate, though from what I understand long ago when they first started rifling it was actually done to help with cleaning and the accuracy gains were a by product.

The twist ratio number you see, 1:9, 1:14 whatever is how many inches it takes the grooves to make one complete rotation. A lower ratio like 1:7 is a fast twist while 1:14 is a slow twist. Bullet weight, caliber, weapon and all kinds of stuff are factors that rifling twist play into.

FALPhil 08-07-2007 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Etho (Post 5870)
Bullet weight, caliber, weapon and all kinds of stuff are factors that rifling twist play into.

Actually, it's not bullet weight, but bullet length that affects stability. We tend to think of weight as the factor because until 20 years ago, most bullets were made the same way. With the advent of non-lead monolithic solids, this perception changed. For example, a 30 cal Barnes 165 grain X-bullet will require a different twist to stabilize than, say, a 165 gr Sierra Game King.

Don Lu 08-07-2007 09:54 PM

The faster the twist, the more accurate ?

FALPhil 08-07-2007 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Lu (Post 5946)
The faster the twist, the more accurate ?

No, the more accurate will be the slowest twist that will stabilize, according to Hatcher.

Bidah 08-07-2007 11:02 PM

You need to decide what kind of bullets you are going to shoot, and then decide what twist rate will work best.

For instance, I have one .308 that uses a 1/10 twist, and another that I use for the very long VLD bullets, and that one is 1/12. AR's can be had in 1/7, 1/8/, 1/9 and 1/12.

-Bidah

RMTactical 08-15-2007 07:50 PM

It's kind of like throwing a football. You have to put the right amount of spin on it. Too much spin is bad, too little spin is bad...

Every projectile is different, and even with calibers different grains can affect the size and be better or worse for your specific twist rate.

Catfish 09-10-2007 10:47 PM

As already said the longer the bullet, in a given cal., the faster it has to be spin to stablize it. The old muzzle loaders shooting patch and round ball could be very accurate with a 1 in 72 twist. The new heaver .22 cal. bullets, 70 to 90 gn., must have a 1 in 7 or 1 in 8 twist to be stablized. Another thing that inters into it is the velosity the bullet will be shot at. The faster you push it the longer the twist rate can be. That said, just because they are giong faster does not mean they will be more accurate as barrel harmonics inter into also.


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