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Old 11-09-2013, 03:35 AM   #751
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i carry condition one all the time on my 238. I think its safe however i do know that mechanical safeties can and will fail but as of now mine is working fine i pocket carry it, hip carry, IWB carry all while condition one and i feel fine about it.
Is there another way to carry?!
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Shoulder and ankle for unisex. Bra and purse for the ladies.
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How is the recoil on the 938 ? Do you carry it in condition one ? I almost bought the 238 because I read it was much easier on the hand than the LCP but I just didn't feel safe via condition one in my pocket n right next to family jewels.

IWB carry is another matter. My brother and I debate ad infinitum about SA vs DA. He is a LEO and is a firm believer in Murphy's Law when it comes to a safety on a gun. I am 1911 fan and a firm believer in "Know Thyself" - w training n muscle memory - a safety is not an issue and may even be an asset.
The P938 has a bit more recoil than a heaver 9mm but it's easy to get used to the difference.
We have an LCP also and there seems to be much less recoil with the P238, enough that Mrs 3T will only carry one of the two 238's we own and we carry ALL in Con 1.
I have an Uncle George wallet holster and carry the LCP,P238 AND P938 in it.
The P938 is a touch long but acceptable and doesn't show above the top edge of my back pocket.
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I meant another way besides condition one?
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I meant another way besides condition one?
Yeah "conditions" 2-4. Which I find to be rather irritating. Terms like that aren't allowed in our training or on our range. Instead we use "plain talk" and actually say what we mean.
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I meant another way besides condition one?
I misunderstood. Condition 1 would be the only way I would ever carry a SAO.
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Yeah "conditions" 2-4. Which I find to be rather irritating. Terms like that aren't allowed in our training or on our range. Instead we use "plain talk" and actually say what we mean.
I don't even think I am aware what they mean
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ALso, it looks like the wife had decided she wants a Glock 19, so that's the next purchase.

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The conditions of gun carry for those not familiar.


Condition 0 – A round is in the chamber, hammer cocked, and the safety is off.
Condition 1 – known as “cocked and locked”, means a round is in the chamber, the hammer cocked, and the manual thumb safety on the side of the frame is applied.
Condition 2 – A round is in the chamber and the hammer is down.
Condition 3 – The chamber is empty and hammer down with a charged magazine in the gun.
Condition 4 – The chamber is empty, hammer down and no magazine is in the gun.


The “Israeli Method”

C3 carry is commonly referred to as the Israeli Method. Some people believe that it is safer and no less effective to carry the pistol with a magazine inserted, safety off, and no round in the chamber. When needed, the shooter draws, racks the slide on the draw stroke and fires.

It's up to the individual which condition they are most comfortable carrying.

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(playing Funeral Dirge in Background) You have my Empathy. all jokes aside,..if it works.....

I'm a Fan of condition 2 in DA/SA Guns,..and I keep a Live Rd. in the pipe in the DAO's as well...
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