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Old 09-22-2012, 02:28 PM   #21
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38 racial I would trust. 9mm is what I would chose.

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I carried a small 22lr for a long time before the mouse guns were readily available. Once a month I would go to the range and fire all the rounds in the pistol and the extra mag plus all but 17 out of a new box. I would use the remaining 17 to load the pistol and the mag. One day I went to the range and the round in the tube did not fire. I switched to a center fire 380. I was carrying a 380 with hardball when I needed it and it would have been enough gun if I had pulled the trigger. A round to the head from 18" is a stopper. Luckily it was not necessary to pull the trigger. If you are going to carry a 22lr pistol use solids. Hollow point 22lr does not work at the low velocity of pistols but does work fine in rifles. A 36 grain Mini Mag HP will penetrate cloth, expand almost 2x and penetrate over 13" into ballistic Gel at 25 yards from a rifle. Currently I carry a Sig P238 380 with Critical Defense. Unlike the other mouse guns, it is a pleasure to shoot.

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Old 09-22-2012, 09:23 PM   #23
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My issues with the 22 are that I get plenty of duds. Even had a mini mag bog fire once.

I prefer centerfire over rimfire.

I like 9mm over 380 because its cheaper and more power. I dislike 380 on cost.

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Old 09-23-2012, 04:05 PM   #24
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I looked long and hard at my needs/requirements and decided to go mainly with the .22 magnum. Yeah, not the choice for everyone. But I looked at the ballistics and videos of it's performance in Gel blocks and even read a compelling story written by a man who was shot point blank with one. I don't live in a high risk area at the moment. It also allowed me to stock up on ammo at an affordable price. (In my humble opinion) I do have a Ruger sp-101 in .327 for home defense and also a couple Nagants which are fun. But the others are basic .22 magnum revolvers from Charter Arms and two mini revolvers from NAA.


I can put the NAA revolvers into a pocket but they also make little holsters for the belt and ankles.




I even bought a couple .22 magnum rifles to go with them.

Small 30 caliber ammo cans will hold an even 1,000 rounds of .22 magnum ammo.

Again, not for everyone but for me it was a good choice.

PS- If your a bit older you may also consider another choice (where it's legal) in a sword cane from Cold Steel. It's a quality product and if all else fails it's better than a rock. I don't need to use a cane yet but I keep it in a corner of the bedroom as a "just in case/if all else fails" weapon

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I answer it like this: I carry a 9mm or a .38 depending on my situation, my dept issues .40 to defeat barriers like auto glass, and .45acp is king.

But every time I hear "oh .22lr? That would just piss a BG off!" I say "oh well heck! Can I shoot you with my MKIII? You can punch me in the face after, see what's worse..."

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I would trust a 22mag . I cc a 380 mid frame ad I have a mossberg behind the seat of my truck if

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[QUOTE="workman5487"]I would trust a 22mag . I cc a 380 mid frame ad I have a mossberg behind the seat of my truck if all else fails 00 buck shot will prob do the job !

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You have to trust the one that's in your hand when you need it!! If you don't why would you carry it? Other words....it's very subjective and certainly a personal decision.

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Subject line says it all.

I don't trust rimfire to go bang everytime. Therefore I would want to have a revolver or lever action rifle if I were to use it SD/hd. Thus removing the smaller gun benefit...so that's why I prefer 9mm.

I would trust. .25. .32. .380 centerfire...but all those cost more than 9mm for me.
Making 9mm the sweet spot.

If someone gave me a tiny 25 and unlimited free ammo I would carry it as a bug or Iwb speedo option.

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.380 is the lowest I'll go for SD. I'd feel safer with 9mm or 38+p though, which is what I will carry.

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